Oh boy, something is messed up -_- (Seeding/DL problem)

[uguu]

Basically, in couple sentences, I was seeding 2 things last night and this morning after I pressed 'stop' to update my stats, it says I downloaded 880mb. Weird .... :mad:

[burnout]

yea the ratio system is still buggy. hongfire is still working on it so give it some time.

[uguu]

Well, it'd be nice if I get my UL reset back to 128k sometime ;)
Or, if thats not possible, I don't mind resetting everything back to zero at all -_-
Btw, where is Hongfire anyways? ::confused::

[burnout]

lets just say he's on a much deserved vacation :)

[Soran]

I have it even worse:
i didn't download anything today & yesterday, only uploaded,
yet my download stats went yesterday from 7xx to 20xxx and now it's 3094
My ratio went from 3.xx to 1.06 , i'm almost in red... :/
If this continues i'll look like a shameless leecher... damn

Not sure if it has anything to do with this problem -
i upload from home ( logged in ) , and read the forum at work ( at the same time ) ...

I would be very grateful if an admin/mod, whoever has the permissions,
could check from which IP(s) these 2,3 GB were downloaded...
I need to find out do i share the IP with some leecher at home or at work.
And it would be great if my stats could be changed back to normal too.

[DrWise]

I am kinda pleased with the up/dl system : of course i lost a ton of up GB but the tracker seems only recording 1/3 of my dl statue... :p

[NightviSion]

Don't mind the system and do the best you can :)
I know how you feel, its really painful to see how your progress is not being recorded correctly...
you can look at me as an example, I barely DL a thing.. and the counter just keeps rising.

[srea]

Me too,DL stats seems to be increase about 340 Mb
Without download anything.

Also, my ip changes everytime when I disconnect/connect internet connection.
Is it because of this?

[[UNKNOWN]]

Lately I can't seem to connect to the tracker ... <urlopen error> ... get this error more frequently than before.
So I guess nothing gets recorded if this happens right?

[Shiryuu]

Seems like I'm the only one who doesn't have problems with the counter... (then again, I only DLed one thing from here in the past week)

[chnkraver]

I've been uploading like crazy and yet only my DL stats is going up. Don't really mind the problem cept i was already in red trying to keep it even, cept my ratio just keeps dropping :p

[Soran]

I would like to ask to disable the DL/UL statistics as long this problem is not solved.
Somehow it's not funny anymore: in last 1-2 days my DL stats went from 3 to 10 GB,
and i haven't even tried to use Hongfire tracker,
if this tendence continues my statistics might become a giga-leech statistics.

I really wanted to reseed all my stuff if anyone requests,
planed upload new stuff, etc.
But with this mark of shame on the chest i really don't want to do anything...

And i'm not the only one who has tons of download listed
even though nothing or just a little was downloaded.

[srea]

The same as you Soran,

Upload ADD about 5gigs Download ADD about 2.3gigs. with out running on hongfire's tracker.

[chompy]

ditto

i am NOT 0.48

[Leechasd]

Lol I don't know why you guys are taking the stats so seriously. Personally it doesn't really affect the person him or herself. Just looking at the find all threads posted by the user should give a pretty good idea how much they have torrented. Although seeing that the system is sketchy at best and sometimes gives you downloads rather that upload count doesn't affect you a whole lot if your already given your well deserved titles :P I mean... look at me for instance... errr nm forget about looking at me i'm a bad example -_- The ratio is as buggy as it can get so... yea don't believe whats it always says :D

[Sphie]

I personally had never a single problem with the stats, but that's probably because my IP is static.
Most people who are having record problems are probably having a dynamic IP which doesn't help the tracker to keep its track on you.

[Soran]

Lol I don't know why you guys are taking the stats so seriously.Many people, inclusive myself, strongly dislike leechers, and many of them don't even know
that the stats can be THAT wrong
( i mean some stuff not recorded is one thing, stuff added,
and like 2000% ( i downloaded barely 1 gb ) is something different
because even if you come here just to chat, you still look like an evil leecher )
I do feel terrible because of this stats crap, and even consider leaving HF
if the stats ( or at least my stats ) will not be reseted.
LOL... there is another solution - put an announcement in very section
"caution: the stats may be completely wrong, don't attention to them",
but wouldn't it completely defeat the purpose of them? So i say - get rid of them
as long the recoding system is not improved.


I personally had never a single problem with the stats, but that's probably because my IP is static.
Most people who are having record problems are probably having a dynamic IP which doesn't help the tracker to keep its track on you.Yes i do have dyn IP.
And i access HF from 2 different places.
Place 1 = dyn IP, place 2 = hardware firewall,
only place 1 is used for uploads & downloads.
But it doesn't make the added, never existed download more fair, does it?

[nml]

why you all ppl realy bother with stats ,obsession?or something

[oink37]

You'll understand once you have them displayed under your name :p

It's true I would feel awkward to make a request with horrendous stats :p , plus my torrents aren't well known, so people probably wouldn't act on my street cred' to fulfill it.

[Soran]

why you all ppl realy bother with stats ,obsession?or somethingYou know, this post makes you look really dumb.
People do care about stats, and on boxtorrents you can ( or at least could in the past )
actually get banned for very bad ratio.

The reason is very simple: leechers kill torrents,
they force the original uploader reseed, while he/she could use his/her time & bandwidth
for something better, like uploading new stuff.
Some uploaders just give up, others might even not be around anymore,
these who downloaded it in the past can't find the files anymore,
others just have no time or don't bother to reseed ( not their own torrents ),
so the more people "hit'n'run", the more chances there are
that you'll not be able to download something.

[nml]

well i know that leechers kill torrent but it wont stop them btw i m not such noob here but its a dif story i seeded when i could

[Mikeido]

Essentially no one really said it would stop them. What it does do though, and this is why it bothers people, is represent your activity with the torrents. Now if all you do is leech stuff and don't even bother to seed back to a positive ratio, your stats will (in an ideal situation where they update normally) fall and make your participation with the community look bad. I can understand you don't care but accept that others do. It will for the most part alter how people view and respond to you, I recently read a post that said "and even if I did, I don't reply to <0.8 users" in response to a request or query of some form.

Soran and many others participate to the continuity of torrents and wouldn't like it to be seen otherwise within the community they also enjoy chatting with.

It's a similar thing with me, mine just don't update (though they don't sporadically jump and drop so I guess it's a plus?) and it bothers me. I was recently downloading Happy Lesson 7 - 9 which needed a seed for several people stuck on 99.9%. After quite a bit of frustration and being a really nice guy, Nick64 was able to re-load the torrent and seed for a while. As well as helping out with explaining what he'd said not 10 minutes ago to other people, I seeded what would have relatively been well past a ratio of 1 for the next few days through that and the other Happy Lesson batches. It doesn't show on my stats though and though he hasn't per-se accused me of being an evil leecher or somesuch, it's a shame that my irritating up: of 1333mb couldn't have risen to show I'd honestly appreciated it and intended to help in the seeding. Hell it bothers me to the point of that I put Happy Lesson on hold :p though with my beyond terrible dial-up speed, it's as much that as a chance to look into another series on a different tracker.

It's also stuck in negative (which is mostly why it bothers me) due to moving house and the house I moved into not having a working phone line. For about a month I had no access before the ridiculously busy phone company could fix all four faults in the line that hadn't been used in over a year. My point being I had to pull the plug an move before I had any chance of pulling it back to at least a 1.0 ratio.

Some people couldn't care less, some aren't too bothered an some are. Just how things go, like some will just grab n' run, some will seed an some will say thanks in one way or another aswell as help with seeding.

[nml]

well ididnt download nothing yet but i dont care cause idont need anything now anyway my ratio were similiar to yours .. my old ratio

[skydragonosiris]

Yeah, some serious problems with the tracker. I finished downloading two torrents and decided to seed it. I uploaded 6 gb total for both torrents already but it doesnt show up on my stats. It looks like only the download stats changed. Sigh....

[Highlander]

It may even be because of the torrent application, and my stats are also very, VERY wrong.

Thats why I haven't made many more torrents, and I planned on doing big things, but O well, I think they should just take it down/disable it.

And the value of some one should be based on their posts......
however, this is also wrong, because several of my friends have t1/t3, and download 1 torrent, then seed it like 12 gigs, and they are worth about 1,000,000 leechers right there.

Actually, I think the most red ratio scores are proper for the most part, cause most people download anyways.

The real probelm with accuracy, is when people hit&run, and when people actually start the torrents first seed.

Not to mention the last couples months of tracker crashing/downtime. up and down constantly.

Sort of makes me not want to share via torrents, but by html... like uploading doujinshi to angelfire or something.

[kensyu]

Yes i do have dyn IP.
And i access HF from 2 different places.
Place 1 = dyn IP, place 2 = hardware firewall,
only place 1 is used for uploads & downloads.
But it doesn't make the added, never existed download more fair, does it?

Just a suggestion this might not be hold true. Do you use the remember me feature. If your not the only one using the comp (especially at work or at school) nullify your remember me or else if a leecher uses that comp you get penalized regardless it's static or dynamic IP.

[Soran]

Just a suggestion this might not be hold true. Do you use the remember me feature. If your not the only one using the comp (especially at work or at school) nullify your remember me or else if a leecher uses that comp you get penalized regardless it's static or dynamic IP.Um... wouldn't it mean that anyone could even post using my nick?
It would be incedibly stupid to use "remember me" on shared/public PC...

[NightviSion]

I would like to ask to disable the DL/UL statistics as long this problem is not solved.
//Late reply :p
Its about time someone requested this ... no use in keeping it running if its not playing its role.

[Soran]

//Late reply :p
Its about time someone requested this ... no use in keeping it running if its not playing its role.Thank you for remembering me ^_^

It feels so good not to have this red ratio thingy near my nick,
and be able to remove the part of my signature about it;
i just hope the stats can be reseted upon request after the upgrade of the tracker,
and the tracker will not record pantom download anymore -_-;

[Soran]

I'm sorry to dig out this old thread, but it must be
because the problem is exactly the same and it makes no sense to create a new thread.

In short: some people still have a "phantom" addition to thier download stats,
some have just huge additions
( perhaps some have added upload too,
i had a little phantom addition to upload short time after i registered in October
( before i uploaded/downloaded anything )
but it was just few MB's, so i didn't reported it )

I hope admins can fix this problem.
( A reply from a staff member would be much appreciated! )

Anyway even the problem that causes recording of phantom stats is fixed,
something should be done about current stats.
Anyone should be able to request a reset.
I don't want to look like a super leecher until i upload 15 GB more than download
even if multiple uploads are recorded correctly
( while my average stats should be around 1.5 - 2 ,
my boxtorrents ratio: 3.349 ( 9.02 GB / 2.69 GB ) ,
http://boxtorrents.com/userdetails.php?id=114758 )
[ for record: my current displayed(wrong) stats are UL: 9.71 GiB DL: 24.58 GiB Ratio: 0.40 ]

In case the recording of phantom stats remains
( not only the stats recorded in the past )
at least any user should be able to disable stats all together
( in profil or with help of a moderator, i know it would be a lot of work,
may be even too much work :( )

If anyone would like to criticize me for resurrecting this thread,
please take a look at this discussion first:
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24664
The most people seem to value UL/DL stats higher than reputation,
these stats are very important for many.

I'm not sure how big is the quote of the users with completely wrong stats,
and especially with phantom download,
but i think even if it works somehow for the most people
it should not mean that the situation is acceptable,
i swear, i would disagree with displaying the stats as of now
even if i personaly would not be affected at all by this problem.

And the last: i hate super leechers and i'm all for keeping ratio stats if they can be improved.
Also i hope a total reset is not neccessary,
i don't want anyone with high upload like panterna (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/member.php?u=4266) to lose their stats...

[ndromeda]

i hope this is the right place to post. I don't actually recall ever uling or dling anything from the tracker ever, and for some reason, i have this crazy phantom upload number ( UL: 126287872 DL: 0 Ratio:) attributed to my username. My stats should actually be uploaded 0 downloaded 0 I believe.

this concerns me, because I don't understand how this actually happened, and I'd hate to be banned for trying to fake an upload or ratio. I'd love it if this phantom upload number could be reset to zero, since I don't like looking like a faker.

[Nidaime]

i hope this is the right place to post. I don't actually recall ever uling or dling anything from the tracker ever, and for some reason, i have this crazy phantom upload number ( UL: 126287872 DL: 0 Ratio:) attributed to my username. My stats should actually be uploaded 0 downloaded 0 I believe.

this concerns me, because I don't understand how this actually happened, and I'd hate to be banned for trying to fake an upload or ratio. I'd love it if this phantom upload number could be reset to zero, since I don't like looking like a faker.
You little cheater! :D No one would think that you cheated, because the ratio of most people isn't updating at all. It even dont have a size after it like GB oder MB.^^ And... I want my ratio reset to zero too. Or is a 0.26 better than a 0? :confused:

EDIT: Just look at your Profile (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/member.php?userid=4173) . It says 126.29 MiB Up load, 0 Down and thats an infinitife Ratio. Isn't it clear now??

[darknessknight]

the dl/ul stat is still bad, base on my record, i shound dl about 4~5 gb, and ul about 10~12 gb, but its like this T_T

[seorang]

the dl/ul stat is still bad, base on my record, i shound dl about 4~5 gb, and ul about 10~12 gb, but its like this T_T

Ratio system is not fully functional, neither is tracker.

[NightviSion]

Well, never to fear, if you know you're doing the right thing. nay! ;)

[SorryAngel]

This thread is funny :)
Perhaps is the ratio affected by CHAT & READ traffic ;-)

[Nvis]

Is the torrent still offline? I noticed the "Torrent" button at the top of the page is gone.