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jinjin
12-21-2005, 01:22 PM
Can you respect and love someone who has undergone a sex reassignment?
This question does not necessarily imply that you will marry the person. For example, what if that person was your father, mother, brother, sister, or best friend?
deadmantiz
12-21-2005, 01:48 PM
undetermined...on principal, YES, since they havev the right to determine their lives in the way they deem fit, and i should respect them and luv them for who they are..but i also understand that most people, myself included feel a werid dread when associated with transexuals....not necesarily based on anything except prejudice
Cheers
What I can say,if I wouldn't knew that person personnaly I wouldn't mind,but if that would be a member of my family I would have to love him/her as I do now,as for best friends,if I could hang with them like always I wouldn't mind,especially if my male friends(after sex-change female) would look nice enough,it would be better to be with girls who share the same interests as I:)
(NO! I just imagined my mother as a man and father as a women,I will have nightmares today:()
Taruby
12-21-2005, 02:44 PM
Truth be told, to respect someone, I would need to understand them first. A trait that I find myself lacking in on an emotional level.
So my respect would have to be formed on a logical level on the various implemented reasons that led to their decision. Even if I cannot comprehend their reasoning as is often the case with me, if their personality is the same I doubt if I'll feel anything different towards them.
http://books.nap.edu/books/0309084180/html
An interesting book that focuses on this issue (Although female to male conversions need a book of their own).
Strangely, I treat my body as a vessel that's only purpose is to serve to stimulate my mind. The appearance of my body holds little meaning with anyone operated on the same mental wavelength as I (This doesn't include hygiene, but merely fashion, charisma, and appearance).
Sad to say, I have yet to feel anything concerning the emotion of love, as that seems to hold something much grander than anything I have yet to experience, so my conlusion is indecision.
Blood_Raven
12-21-2005, 03:03 PM
I would completely respect them.
It's simple biology, when the genes split in the womb, an xy (male) chromosome might not completely form, while the body is xy the brain and there in the person is not male and was developed form the xx (female) chromosome. And those people only want to change to what they believe they are or should be.
Interestingly enough, this discovery (also dubbed as the gay gene) can explain the homosexual people in the world. Yet, most of the world is yet to accept this claim and many religious bodies won't even acknoledge it.
So, in my opinion, it's not a morality issue at all, its a biological one.
In any case, I'd still respect any person who chooses to have a sex change.
Vinitachi
12-21-2005, 05:29 PM
If they want a sex change. Go right ahead. I won't stop them. Just hope the person is 100% sure and hope I get used to it like all the other stuff I got used to. I'll repect them but it will take some getting used to.
Mai Tokiha
12-21-2005, 06:43 PM
No idea... and I've really no desire to find out :rolleyes:
sendaria
12-21-2005, 08:46 PM
I dont know. I think I will feel kinda weird toward that person. It is unnatural.
magihina
12-22-2005, 06:06 AM
I dont know. I think I will feel kinda weird toward that person. It is unnatural.
I would have to agree to that, it's like...like...well it's sort of
a weird feeling ok?
jinjin
12-22-2005, 10:03 AM
I think it will feel weird. I would probably be shocked. But if I really liked that person, then I don't expect my feelings to change.
MoshiMoshiMenchi
12-22-2005, 10:15 AM
A person's body is just a physical form, while their mind is still the same. To lose respect because the visual aspect has changed speaks of a certain shallowness. Do you despise your wife or husband, because they have wrinkles now?
Do you hate your best friend, because he got it into his head to dye his hair blue?
Why then, should you hate your brother because he wanted to change his physical body? His mind is still there. He is still the same person you grew up with. He is still the same person you idolized as a child.
Would it be any less if he got horribly burned? Or if he had plastic surgery to make his face look like Brad Pitt?
Love the mind, and not the body. The body's appearance is too maleable, while the mind is what truly matters.
Yes. Though I think it would take some serious adaptation. At least for me, who
has never been encountered with such a situation as of yet. And I hardly have
to mention that it depends a lot on the personality of the person in question,
just as with any other individual wether they have undergone a sexchange or
not.
I dont know. I think I will feel kinda weird toward that person. It is unnatural.
Perhaps, but then what is natural? Living in a house, driving a car, eating from a
plate? These are things that you don't see any other animal do, and you won't
find plates growing on trees. Aren't those things unnatural too?
Renzon
12-25-2005, 04:06 PM
A person's body is just a physical form, while their mind is still the same. To lose respect because the visual aspect has changed speaks of a certain shallowness. Do you despise your wife or husband, because they have wrinkles now?
Do you hate your best friend, because he got it into his head to dye his hair blue?
Why then, should you hate your brother because he wanted to change his physical body? His mind is still there. He is still the same person you grew up with. He is still the same person you idolized as a child.
Would it be any less if he got horribly burned? Or if he had plastic surgery to make his face look like Brad Pitt?
Love the mind, and not the body. The body's appearance is too maleable, while the mind is what truly matters.
While I understand where you're coming from, I don't believe your post is entirely accurate.
A sex change is entirely different from a change in hair color or someone realizing they are gay. Though I'd feel uncomfortable if a friend told me they were gay suddenly I could "try" to deal with it.
A sex change, however, is entirely different. It's not just the body that's being changed, but the inner workings that are being affected as well. Keep in mind that in the case of homosexuals whether they be male or female you will still deal with that individual as a male or female. In the case of a transgendered individual at one point they were one sex and now they are the opposite. It's physical and psychological. Transgendered people take hormones in preparation to become that gender and they learn how to speak as that gender (deeper tone for men and lighter tone for women.
Sure the mind will be the same. They can't exactly get rid of their past experiences, but the way they think may be altered.
So as to the question I'm undecided. I don't want to know how I'd react in this kind of situation, but I know now for sure that I would be more readily open to hearing that the individual were homosexual than that they were going to undergo a sex change.
Covvie
12-25-2005, 05:35 PM
"A person's body is just a physical form, while their mind is still the same."
I question that all humans have a static state of mind. The "I" a year ago is different from the I now. Though I cannot speak for everyone without deeply generalizing, we change tastes and opinions as we learn. To undergo a sex change must involve resolution to one's decisions and thoughts, thus some changes will occur.
I would feel different to a changed person. However, this is not neccesarily for the worse. Communication-wise, I talk better to males than with females even if it's a he-woman.
"..changed speaks of a certain shallowness."
The exact word I thought of myself when I read JinJin's first post.
CrimsonFlare
01-01-2006, 09:40 PM
True. Not only that but usually a person is put through pyschological sessions before anything is done to make sure it a choice in life that they want to do. So for a person to go through that and the physical change and still be happy i think deserves to be respected. It would make no difference to me. It's still a person.
akumas
01-02-2006, 05:28 AM
For me doesn't matter how do you look and what you undergone . The feelings for that person are stronger that she/he looks and only that counts for me . In college i had friend (male) who in time of summer vacation had SRS and from new year she started to attend to school as girl. As always school is big place for people which criticed her and push on her , but with help of many people and school principal we managed to put off fire and persuade the opressors from giving up on that matter.And one more - one of the male from other class fall in love with her (he was fully conscious of his move). From that time i know that the feelings are important and strength to manage the fear of other peoples saying
IndigoLily
01-08-2006, 03:58 AM
One of my best friends has had a gender change and is now a girl. It took some time to get used to her new appearance, but that's all, we're still friends and nothing will change that.
MrWiseman
01-08-2006, 05:09 AM
I don't know what I'd do if a friend changed sex. I suppose I'd physically distance myself just in case (be it a girl or a boy, I'm not into that), and make all sorts of jokes with Admiral Ackbar saying "IT'S A TRAP!" (from 4chan, lol).
Jonny
01-08-2006, 05:22 AM
I rather not know if it was a girl - and I wouldn't mind if it was a boy cause I would rather become a human punching bag than to want to see...
A girl.. Well, if one would like the other than one would not care as to how he would make her feel happy with herself...
ChudMeister
01-08-2006, 06:17 AM
Absolutely not. Sex change surgery doesn't change a person's gender. It's the same crap as with furries. You don't become a cat just because you take surgery to look like one. In the end, they're just freaks who are too weak to live with what they were given at birth.
deadcoat
01-08-2006, 06:31 AM
No I could not respect the person if they did such a thing. I simply do not believe in that thing about the person was born a male but really is a female or vice versa that is BS.
jinjin
01-30-2006, 02:13 PM
After doing much research on Intersexuals (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39678). I've decided that on a personal level, the heck with it. It doesn't matter if that person underwent SRS or not, so long as we are compatible for procreation (since procreation is important to me), then we can be together. Otherwise, we'll have to part as friends.
And there probably is no way to figure out how many fake males or females where created by doctors. We just know that the medical community has been doing this for years.