Description Requirements?

[Kyubi Demon]

i know many people will hate me for this, but can i request that for anime and manga LOLICON, there has to be a sign in the name of the file? many people alredy do that and i think it's really useful for people like me that don't really like that type of manga. so i was thinking that a new icon for this kind of things can be very useful, or at least please make them insert the "[LOLI] tag on the names of the files... sorry for the bother and for the crappy english...

good bye

[lucky644]

I don't think a specific icon is necessary.

[Astral100]

Hmm, surely seeing manga with like 4-5 year old girls and boys having sex is bit disturbing, but actually there are so many sick manga shared on HF that LOLI compared to them is one the milder things available.

I guess it would be better to enforce some kind of rule to include the fetishes and genre into release description.

[eerodin]

nah, it's always a nice surprice to find something totally perverted when you think you're just gonna get some harmless ordinary hentai. :D

[Wabo2k]

true it is nice but yeah some kind of [Loli] label in the description would help. Don't get me wrong I like the manga's but would like to know before I DL some file and it turns out to be entirely different than expected

[AkashicLibrarian]

Thankfully, a decent amount of members already do label the type of fetishs to be found in H-mangas, but too many still don't. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, where just like labeling something 'Lolicon' is important, so is labelling Big Breast mangas (too much breast meat over the years has pushed me to love all things lolicon these days :) )

Does it take much effort to place a few simple key labels in the Description of the torrrent? NO.
Loli, BB, Futa, Scat, Guro, etc. It's just a few extra keystrokes, fer G's sake!
(Or what's nice as well is when the link to the info page of the manga is added, though nobody expects anyone else to do that... that's just something that pleases the anal catalog freaks like me. :D Though honestly, it would be nice if those same catalog freaks who know where to find the manga info, would actually put the name of the mangaka and full title instead of just one word, but who am I to look a gift horse in the mouth, eh?)

And related to this is one of my current pet peeves:
If someone responds with "how can I label what it is if I haven't looked at the manga in the first place". (cuz some people uploading torrents are guilty of this)
... :confused: :mad:
WHY THE F*** are you even bothering to torrent the damn thing if you don't know what the hell it is?!?!?
Usually you share the things you like with the community, right? Not something you randomly download just cuz it was labeled H. You could be helping spread a virus for all you know. :rolleyes:
grrrrr...

[AkashicLibrarian]

@Kyubi Demon

If you were talking about the the one with the name 'Grarman Peticion' (aka Angel anthology volume 04 - Touch Angel. What the heck is Grarman Peticion?), I COMPLETELY agree that it should have been marked lolicon, as even some lolicons find this series a bit too young for their tastes, so I imagine that someone that doesn't like lolicon at all would be quite annoyed after downloading this.
A bit of common courtesy is all we ask.

[Rai_11]

A tag (which most ppl put) should do, I doubt an icon is necessary also

[DirtyFinger]

I'm posting masses of hentai mangas and I just figure that as soon as you encouter something you don't like (in my case it's shitting, yaoi, mutilation and other stuff), you simply try the next one.

Categorizing them would be too much work for me, considering that every release I do contains about 50-100 doujins.

[Futalover]

Could we get SOME kind of description requirement for torrents? I don't know how many torrents currently being listed have zero information about them, some nothing more than a cryptic code or something.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very appreciative that someone wishes to share their manga/games/etc., but listing the name of the manga and the mangaka usually means nothing to people who aren't already familiar with the mangaka.

Then there's the question of content. I personally don't like loli or guro, as they actually make me ill, and downloading something to find that it's one of these two is not only annoying, but a complete waste of time.

Could we get some kind of requirement to at least list the content type of a torrent? In the case of large bulk torrents, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that the poster list at least a partial list of content types. I'd also suggest that torrents failing to at least list off the content type should be deleted by the moderators.

I really don't think this is too much to ask (of the poster of a torrent), and can only help everyone coming to Hongfire.

[rukawack]

true
they should at least list the files they are uploading for a batch torrents

[Uninformed]

true
they should at least list the files they are uploading for a batch torrents You can already see this information - when viewing a torrent's details, click the "See full list" link under "Num files".

[rukawack]

not all have the details expecially those that are in winrar or winzip format

[Futalover]

not all have the details expecially those that are in winrar or winzip format

Are you asking that they list off every single file, even within compressed files? If so, how would that be beneficial in any way? The current file listing method is more than adequate. I can't see how having every file listed is in any way helpful for anything.

[Astral100]

File listing is not that important, but I second opinion about detailed description. So that a person at least know what to expect

[Kyubi Demon]

ok, the icon is going too far, but like AkashicLibrarian said the tag is useful. if i have to download a torrent with a restricyed number of seeds it takes even two hours for only 50 mb... and then again i find a girl ,that even i don't understand if she's able to walk, fucked up by four guys!!! that's not really the kind of things that i like!

i think a tag can be useful even with mangas with rapes in them... since the last thing i would is to rape a girl, seeing people doing it in a manga can be a little irritating ( these are only my thoughts)...

bye bye....

[Kyubi Demon]

Then there's the question of content. I personally don't like loli or guro, as they actually make me ill, and downloading something to find that it's one of these two is not only annoying, but a complete waste of time.




i totally agree with you... it's really a waste of time to download something you don't like.... like i said in my post a tag would be really useful, since every person has the right to like or dislike what they want to...

[Futalover]

i totally agree with you... it's really a waste of time to download something you don't like.... like i said in my post a tag would be really useful, since every person has the right to like or dislike what they want to...

I don't know that a tag is entirely necessary, especially when dealing with large bulk torrents, it's simply not feasible. Just something in the description field for the torrent itself to indicate what to expect is more than adequate I think.

As it is right now, something like 75% of the manga torrents listed on the first page have nothing indicating their content. Some are actually cryptic with nothing but what I assume to be a code of some kind. Why even bother posting a torrent like that?

An ideal solution would be to have the option of uploading an image or two as examples as well, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

[AkashicLibrarian]

I do believe that in regards to hentai, a tag regarding rape (non-consensual vs consensual) may be a bit too much to ask, considering that half the H-manga's usually have non-consensual stuff. Especially if it's a batch doujin torrent like some of DirtyFingers's, you have to just accept that it's GUARANTEED that there will be SOME non-consensual acts in there.

So... for the type of fetish, that's an easy one to tag, but as there are so many shades of gray between consensual/non-consensual, you're asking for the impossible.

Though, personally, I'm going to listen to your suggestion and put either a consensual/non-consensual/some non-consensual tag on some of the H items that I torrent.

[AkashicLibrarian]

You know what's the silliest thing?

Most those that like particular niche fetishes like lolicon, guro, etc, actually would REALLY appreciate the to see the tags themselves, instead of chancing that this crypticly named torrent 'could be' what I'm looking for.

Speaking as a lolicon myself, I click the torrent at the speed of light when I see the lolicon tag. (after identifying that it's not another old re-release of course)

So it doesn't make ANY sense at all why someone who likes that fetish area who wants to share that particular type H-manga with the community wouldn't tag it for what it is in order to share it properly with it's intended audience.
ZERO SENSE! NADA! ZILCH!

Actually, I believe some of the blame can be placed on some of the 4chan-ers/ii-channers, as they usually put a description on those forums with a link to the torrent, so some of them unkindly don't bother to add a description (which is, of course, wrong). Not to say it's all their fault, as there are some great torrents with a detailed description from some 4chan-ers that I'm familiar with, but there are some others that don't have a clue whatsoever.


(would be nice to join this and the other thread together, as they're basically going on about the same thing)

[wyverngirl]

(would be nice to join this and the other thread together, as they're basically going on about the same thing)
Done. The other thread has been merged, and I believe appears before this one under the same heading.

-Wyverngirl

[Futalover]

Well, it would appear that every single person who's responded thus far and a reasonably large percentage of those that voted seem to either be in favour of required labelling of some kind, or are indifferent.

That being the case, it seems to me that the general sentiment all seem to feel, is that it would do nothing but help everyone involved. So the next logical question to me would seem, how do we convince the Hongfire people of making this a requirement?

I'm still very much for having moderators delete torrents which don't give SOME kind of content descriptions in (gasp!) the description field. Of course, there should be a clearly displayed warning whenever someone goes to post a new torrent so as to allay any whining about disappearing torrents, but I'm sure once the word gets out, people will begin to follow suit. And for those that don't, I don't really think they actually add anything to begin with except noise anyway, so I can't see that as any kind of loss.

So how about it mods? Think this would be possible?

[wyverngirl]

Well, I can't speak for the others, but I'm all for deleting torrents that contain questionable material but aren't labelled as such.

It's slightly more work, but hey, if it helps make a happier community...

Though we'd probably have to rely on others reporting the torrents too.

-Wyverngirl

[wyverngirl]

Though I don't want to end up being too restrictive. ^_^

-Wyverngirl

[Konigkonrad]

I understand your point and I know all too well that laws without due inforcment are no better then the paper they're written on. However I do belive deleting torrents over such an issue is rather extream. There is nothing wronf with asling for more detailed information but punishing people over the lack of that information is just too harsh. And sure, dling stuff you don't want is annoying, it happens to me all the time, but really that just seems to be part of it. It's not like it's difficult to ask someone's opion about a torrent, it might be awhile before you get a reply but hey, in this way people don't have to create a new set of rules and then enforce it--which is always much more effort then it's worth and typicaly ends up with the other side being just as mad as the side befor them.

[Kyubi Demon]

so all we have to do is ask for some opinions directly in the torrent page?
i still think a little tag would be useful. i know that for big batch torrents is impossible, but if someone is uploading a manga or a anime it's not that much of a request

[kikori]

Speaking as a lolicon myself, I click the torrent at the speed of light when I see the lolicon tag.Pin-pon! Same here -- click to download immediately when you see some tags, avoid others like the plague. I'm in favor of some sort of tagging somewhere. Most fetishy manga seem to fall into one, maybe two major categories. They take the time to do it on 4chan, it can't hurt to cut and paste the same description when they're posting the torrent. I also agree with AkashicLibrarian that asking for "Rape" and such probably is a bit too much to ask, since it's in nearly every hentai anime/manga out there.

I don't think deleting them is a bad idea. Going back to 4chan again, one of the trackers required that folks put a description of which site the torrent was posted for into the description, and they got deleted otherwise. People learned pretty quick and were more than happy to oblige. Sure, you wound up with people saying "WTF, where'd my torrent go?", but that was usually followed up with one or more people saying "Idiot, you forgot to put the site name in the description."

[Kyubi Demon]

maybe deleting them without advice it's too much...

can we do a period of rule changing where mods contact the updaters and ask them to put a description? then after the period deleting them can be done


sorry for the crappy english :p

[killtrix]

Lolicon is not my thing as well but...

I feel it should be up to the poster(s) if they want to post a description of the file or not. The poster should not in any way be held responsible for the reaction you get when viewing material that is found offensive by some i.e Hurling, screaming, pouting or nausea.

If i'm not mistaken the original poster of this thread asked only for Loli content to have a warning of some sort. I find it a bit unfair to only target one fetish.

AS LONG AS IT"S NOT REAL PICS OF REAL MINORS.

Well that's my two cents.

[Kyubi Demon]

Well there are many types of japanese hentai mangas that makes me sick and i'm not telling that posters have to be held responsible, but i'm only telling that a tag would be useful even for people who likes that kind of things. as you said, if you don't like loli i don't think you will be very happy to know that the file that you was waiting to be completed is totally different from what you wanted. so, if it is a tag or a little description i don't mind it, but please give us the possibility to download what we like, whatever it is....

[Uninformed]

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2304

This, and the associated torrent page, is what I'm going to be doing from now on. A picture being equivalent to a thousand words, and all that. :)

[Kyubi Demon]

I really appreciate what you did, if only all the updaters were like you...

[Astral100]

I really appreciate what you did, if only all the updaters were like you...
Couldn't be said better.

[Futalover]

I feel it should be up to the poster(s) if they want to post a description of the file or not. The poster should not in any way be held responsible for the reaction you get when viewing material that is found offensive by some i.e Hurling, screaming, pouting or nausea.


For all the effort required of the poster of a torrent, I can't see why anyone would be against this. All it's going to do is help everyone involved. No one is saying the poster of the torrent is responsible for anything, except maybe being inconsiderate. As it is now, there's just a lot of flotsam being tossed up on Hongfire. In many cases, they may as well not even bother posting a torrent.

The only reason that I can think of for not wanting labeling is someone wanting to piss off people downloading files, and we really don't need that kind of person sharing their crap here at Hongfire. Not saying that's you, just saying I can't see any valid reason why anyone would be against mandatory labeling.



If i'm not mistaken the original poster of this thread asked only for Loli content to have a warning of some sort. I find it a bit unfair to only target one fetish.


This thread is a mix of two threads. The original poster you see was from another thread, complaining about loli content. My thread which included the poll was asking that ALL content be labeled. I also find guro to be repugnant as well as loli, but can completely understand why someone may not enjoy futa, or scat, or whatever it may be. We're asking that ALL content be listed to the best of the poster's abilities, and in the case of bulk torrents, at least a partial listing of content, as well as maybe a generic warning that their torrent may include such and such content. Though in their case, I really think most people will be expecting a certain amount of variety, unless it's something specific like 100 futa mangas or something along those lines.

[Kyubi Demon]

the LOLI thing was only an example. if all the material uploaded on Hongfire will be labelled by the uploaders then i will be the happier man on this planet....

What uninformed did, and some other uploaders are alredy doing, it's only useful to the community and i can't see why people can be against this...

[Futalover]

Here's two perfect examples of what I'm talking about.

Oppai (http://bt.hongfire.com/torrents-details.php?id=689)
Leopard (http://bt.hongfire.com/torrents-details.php?id=690)

Obviously, these were both requested on 4chan, and it's great that these two are sharing their mangas/doujins, but they may as well have not even bothered posting these torrents.

These could be guro/loli rape doujins for all I know. Or they could be VCR instructions drawn as manga. I have no way of knowing.

At the very least, could we get the upload page dialogue to ask the posters to try to be descriptive about content?

[Futalover]

And here's an example of a manga that requires some warning.

Momokan (http://bt.hongfire.com/torrents-details.php?id=692)

It's a manga from Momoyama Jirou and contains rape, heavy non-consensual themes, hard bondage, and many other elements that some may find disturbing/offensive. I don't personally have a problem with these themes and subject matter, but I'd imagine that there are quite a few people who do. Now if you look at the description, the poster of the torrent felt it more important to indicate that "emule sucks", than to give anyone any kind of idea what the content is.

This is a perfect example of torrents which I believe should be deleted. Not due to content, but because the poster is not only inconsiderate, but is also clearly being juvenile. I don't think this torrent adds anything to Hongfire, and if anything, detracts from Hongfire in that it makes it harder to identify something you want, while increasing the signal to noise ratio of torrents being posted.

[Astral100]

Well said.

while increasing the signal to noise ratio of torrents being posted
And thus lowering tracker efficiency factor.

[AkashicLibrarian]

@Futalover: umm... as much as I'm VERY much for the inclusion of descriptions (see my prior posts in this thread as well as my own verbose torrent descriptions), you may think about taking your crusade down a notch.

Yes, Etunth's reposting of the Negima doujin in HQ with better naming conventions was appreciated. BUT, unlike other overly non-descriptive posters, this one had it described well enough to a certain level (TYPE= doujin SUBJECT(Anime title/character/etc)= Negima TITLE = Oppai (maybe not the 100% title, but still))
99% of those seeing it and downloading it know enough of the content that they care about (It's a Negima doujin! Most all of those collecting Negima doujins are not going to refuse to download because of subject matter)
And for circle doujin packs, a link to the circle's homepage is all that should be needed to provide enough description

And regarding the Momoyama Jirou manga, as the mangaka's name was given, a simple google search would quickly show what to expect simply from the covers (quite visibly non-consensual/bondage), and as much as I agree that the person should have put something along those lines in the description, a torrent that actually has at least proper listing of mangaka and title name doesn't deserve your comment "This is a perfect example of torrents which I believe should be deleted". There are countless other torrents that deserve those words a helluva lot more.

And FACT: you don't have to download every H-manga that shows up on the tracker. There's an insane amount of it out there, so passing up on less than descriptive torrents isn't going to be the end of anyone's H-manga hoarding world. Even though it wasn't as descriptive as it should have been, a certain amount of credit should be placed on those who didn't take the extra half minute to zap up the name in a search engine and instead decided to blindly download it and waste their 50mbs worth. Downloader beware.

(and yes, I agree simply putting 'emule sucks' is a bit juvenile, but there's enough of a chance that the poster actually IS a juvenile)

[Futalover]

Yes, Etunth's reposting of the Negima doujin in HQ with better naming conventions was appreciated. BUT, unlike other overly non-descriptive posters, this one had it described well enough to a certain level (TYPE= doujin SUBJECT(Anime title/character/etc)= Negima TITLE = Oppai (maybe not the 100% title, but still))

Please tell me how this (http://bt.hongfire.com/torrents-details.php?id=689) tells me anything? The description says "4chan.org request." Please tell me how this gives any indication as to what the contents of the doujin/manga are? You can't because it doesn't tell anyone anything.


99% of those seeing it and downloading it know enough of the content that they care about (It's a Negima doujin! Most all of those collecting Negima doujins are not going to refuse to download because of subject matter)


And? Do you think Hongfire is for your exclusive use to do with as you wish? In case you didn't notice, Hongfire is here for EVERYONE to use, and you use it at their sufferance. I don't know where you learned manners, but when you use someone else's resources, it's just common courtesy to be considerate of your host, and in this case that means being considerate to Hongfire.

*I* don't know who Negima is. Is that a mangaka? Is that the name of a circle? Is it a series? I don't know. And while I may not be representative of the majority of Hongfire visitors, I don't think I'm alone in not having a clue what or who Negima is. It makes NO difference if you know who/what they are. It only matters that others do not.



And for circle doujin packs, a link to the circle's homepage is all that should be needed to provide enough description


I would tend to agree, though I don't think that's adequate. There are enough newcomers to mangas/doujins on a daily basis (and Hongfire for that matter) that it's simply not going to tell them anything, especially when a simple description of content will tell them all they need to know.



And regarding the Momoyama Jirou manga, as the mangaka's name was given, a simple google search would quickly show what to expect simply from the covers (quite visibly non-consensual/bondage)


So what exactly are you arguing for here? That hundreds of people (if not more) should each look to google, instead of just ONE person taking 10 extra seconds to type that it's non-consensual bondage and rape? Just how does that make more sense?



and as much as I agree that the person should have put something along those lines in the description, a torrent that actually has at least proper listing of mangaka and title name doesn't deserve your comment "This is a perfect example of torrents which I believe should be deleted". There are countless other torrents that deserve those words a helluva lot more.


I also think there are quite a few more which deserve deletion as well. But this one is no more or less deserving of it. I'm sorry if you feel offended by this, for what reason, I fail to understand, but it most certainly is a perfect example of torrents which should be deleted. Again, NOT DUE TO CONTENT, but due to the lack of description, inconsiderate behaviour of the poster, and generally reducing the value of Hongfire.



And FACT: you don't have to download every H-manga that shows up on the tracker. There's an insane amount of it out there, so passing up on less than descriptive torrents isn't going to be the end of anyone's H-manga hoarding world.


I completely agree. The problem arises when virtually NONE of them indicate whether they're worth my downloading or not because none of them decide to actually describe their content. So I have either the choice of downloading nothing, or downloading all of them. Signal to noise ratio. So please, tell me how I should decide what to download when none of them tell me just WHAT are contained within them?



Even though it wasn't as descriptive as it should have been, a certain amount of credit should be placed on those who didn't take the extra half minute to zap up the name in a search engine and instead decided to blindly download it and waste their 50mbs worth. Downloader beware.


Again, what makes more sense, 100+ people all being forced to turn to other methods of trying to hunt down information which SHOULD be supplied initially, or asking one person to spend an extra 20 seconds to label something properly?



(and yes, I agree simply putting 'emule sucks' is a bit juvenile, but there's enough of a chance that the poster actually IS a juvenile)

And? Being young is supposed to excuse this behaviour why? So are you saying because they're young, we should just allow them to continue being an idiot?

I'm confused. I don't see why you would be so resistant to something so simple? Every instance which I've cited thus far is a clear example of how Hongfire is being reduced in value with the kind of poor torrenting being done. Do you want Hongfire to become another htrack or anisearch? Or any number of other crappy anime/hentai trackers? Why are you being so resistant to this?

[Excorsism]

wow x.x you sure are scary sob lol

[eerodin]

Eh. Though the lack of description about torrents is kinda annoying, no way is it a reason to start deleting them. You can always just ask about the torrents on the comments section and in less than a few days your guestions will be answered.

[kikori]

I'm confused. I don't see why you would be so resistant to something so simple? Every instance which I've cited thus far is a clear example of how Hongfire is being reduced in value with the kind of poor torrenting being done. Do you want Hongfire to become another htrack or anisearch? Or any number of other crappy anime/hentai trackers? Why are you being so resistant to this?I think we're getting a little off track. The majority of everyone that's responded to this thread thus far has pretty much been in favor of some form of description in order to identify overall content type. It doesn't matter if you know who or what Negima is, and it's not up to the poster to tell you what Negima is (just FYI, it's a manga by Akamatsu Ken, creator of Love Hina). Quite frankly, I don't know who most of the manga-ka's are that author most of the manga I download, with the exception of a few favorites. Hence why the short, brief description of content type is desirable. But it needs to be kept just that -- short and brief. Tell me if it's loli (or whatever), and I'll decide based on that if I'm going to download it. The fact that it's a doujin of some Japanese video game I've never even heard of matters not; the fact that it may or may not contain content that I do or don't want does.

[Futalover]

I think we're getting a little off track. The majority of everyone that's responded to this thread thus far has pretty much been in favor of some form of description in order to identify overall content type.

Thank you. That's exactly what we're all asking for.

[AkashicLibrarian]

@Kikori: Pin-Pon!

@Futalover: Negima is currently one of the top 3 bestselling GNs in NA and many other countries in the world, and luck had it that you weren't familiar with it, in which you are in the minority. It's not to the point of Dragonball public awareness, but popular enough to not merit needing a description beyond the name. (and I was assuming the heart of the matter was description of content, not the education of anime/manga series in general)

And you seem to be venting in the wrong direction, 'cause if you actually read the first paragraph of my last post as well as any of my previous descriptive posts, I am VERY much in agreement with you and most everyone else in this thread (I don't believe I am someone on this forum/tracker that deserves comments regarding lack of manners, common courtesy and consideration, and how can I be resisting something that I'm already for...).
Refer to the following example if you still are unsure as to which side of the (non-)argument I'm on:
http://bt.hongfire.com/torrents-details.php?id=621

If you recall, when the tracker was put back up the last time around 4 weeks back, it was pretty chaotic with lots of descriptionless and/or absolute crap torrents, which moderators did in fact delete some of the worst offendors.
At this point in time though, there's actually a decent signal to noise ratio, which has been steadily increasing as the days go by, with a higher ratio of content description in comparison to weeks back as well. You can't change the world, or in this case, improve use of a tracker in one day.

And this all may be moot once things switch over to the tracker that's integrated with the forum anyways. (One thing I'm wondering about is whether the old tracker will be nix'ed once the forum tracker proves to be fully-functioning, as that would change a lot of factors... though I guess that's a question for another part of the forum.)

[Astral100]

To Akashic, regarding kaleidostar doujinshi on tracker
http://bt.hongfire.com/torrents-details.php?id=700

Well, now that you made it clear that your previous post wasn't directed at me, I believe we don't have anymore issues to argue about. I apologise for any rude comments I might have made on your part, that was all a misunderstanding from not knowing about the fact that the post was not for me in the first place.

About Futalover. Although he indeed stated as a part of his remarks that title description should be included, I believe that it was a mere overreacted comment from him, due to having the same issue I am griping about - not including fetishes list into description. Reading his posts made me believe that he complains about fetishes, not title description.

[Mondy]

As much as i like to see descriptions overall i belive it should be up to the seed. I for example will always put up descriptions when i torrent somthing. I see it as something that should be used so other people can identify if they want to download it or not. I dont belive a full descrption is always required buy i would like to see a link to a website about a torrent if it is avalible.

[killtrix]

My fellow anime,manga lovers. I don't want to give anyone a hard time please see this as common sense:
I downloaded a cosplay fighting game from the torrent section which in turn i was not sure about the content ie: nudity or hardcore sex of any form or fashion , as my younger sister likes anime and i thought this may be a fun game for her "which she had a great time playing, thanks to the poster".

Solution :All i did was post a reply and kindly asked someone if it was suitable for younger players and within the span of a day i recieved my reply with a message saying it was cool.

Again i feel it's up to the poster to post a description.And most do post a small bio,link or keyword.

We all move to a beat of a different drummer.

[Astral100]

Well, I fear this might go on forever. Since there are several oppinions regarding this matter, the only one who can put a stop to all argues is HongFire himself.
I believe that only the higher authority will be able to make everyone follow the single standard.

[Sphie]

Speaking as a lolicon myself, I click the torrent at the speed of light when I see the lolicon tag. (after identifying that it's not another old re-release of course) That's exactly the reason I think the tags are very useful if you like only one particular style :)
So of course, I think tags are a good idea.
An icon would be pushing to the limits though :p

[DirtyFinger]

How's this for a descripton?
http://bt.hongfire.com/torrents-details.php?id=873&hit=1

I wish I could include pictures in the description... :)

[eerodin]

Too long... If one can't have pictures in description, the ideal description would be one that is short yet tells a lot about the torrent and includes a link to somewhere you can read more if you're interested about it in.

At least that's my opinion. People often disagree with me though. :D

[Astral100]

O_O

Respect, man.

[alucard00]

i should be describesion 4 every hentai movies ,hentai games,hentai manga
thats how people whos now what type of hentai there downloading
it would be great
tanx :D

[jsnut]

This discussion was pretty much settled judging from no reply for over a year. No need to revive it.

Closed.