View Full Version : So with torrents gone probably will you stay?
cattz
06-18-2005, 08:56 AM
first thought: wth you're working on the galery and not finish up old work like enable tracker/torrents again? ^^
We can't bring the torrent section back up so to speak right now. Its a legal thing not a technical one.
Also with the gallery pretty much gone also...
Is anyone going to stay?
All the stuff that lured 95% of the people here is gone now...
Lets see...
Dreamerdgh
06-18-2005, 09:00 AM
Of course, but the gallery will be back, and hopefully the torrents also but with much tighters controls.
sargentwhitey
06-18-2005, 09:01 AM
Indeedy I will be staying, I always enjoy forums, especially those that are related to anime.
nick64
06-18-2005, 09:03 AM
the community is fantastic here, of course i stay
cattz
06-18-2005, 09:04 AM
And yes, before anyone points it out, most the peep who aren't here to post in forums, will never read this topic, and mostly donor's and other regulars here will see this, but worth it out of wanting to know I guess heh.
pringles89
06-18-2005, 09:29 AM
now if forums also goes down, then i will check back once in a while to see if sit e is back up.
I'll be staying here as well because almost all members here have Netiquette not only that but when people debate in forums it's work reading it :) & this is the place where I usually snatch my hentai.(Well if hentai is gone I'm still gonna stay anyways those things can NEVER happen)
flz9636
06-18-2005, 09:37 AM
im staying but i dont go hongfire very offen only 3 time week to check out the forum and read some stuff. I normally read more than posting in forum, dont feel like typing much.
adun50
06-18-2005, 09:43 AM
well I've been a member with hongfire for a VERY long time. so I don't plan on going to a different site. plus the forums here is part of HongFire. I would find it rather dull if it was only torrents
Of course I would stay,I'm here for nice community not the torrents(but it was my only window for nice japanese h-games).
ArchWing
06-18-2005, 09:50 AM
They are just upgrading the site, it doesn't mean they are closing it. Of course, I will stay. It takes time to upgrade, and for the people who don't have the patience to wait, might as well go or stay.
cattz
06-18-2005, 09:55 AM
We can't bring the torrent section back up so to speak right now. Its a legal thing not a technical one.
Not as simple as upgrading anymore.
And thats probably also why they never made an annoucnement about it.
Lisa Hayes
06-18-2005, 10:04 AM
It pays to read the threads posted in the forums.
I'tll still be just the same, more or less. But with easier workload than before.
Of course, with torrent section MIA, and the recent gallery wipeout, there are less incentives that hf offers to the members.
Well its true that I firstly came for the torrents sorta (although I made quite small use of it)
The galleries are a great add.
But ever since I joined and been active, I've seen that my main reason to stay is the social contacts, the friends, and the community.
So definitely stay
I was attracted here like xebi for the torrents too but i stayed cuz of the ppl in h-f. The gallery was another major attracting point but i'm here now mainly cuz of the post by fellow members.
ANIMEPRO
06-18-2005, 10:15 AM
(Screw this l am leaveing) :D
Na just kidding, I am planing on staying/hanging around for this place/site for times to come :D And Pluse people here are well NICE.
mdirwan
06-18-2005, 10:18 AM
I got to know new friends especially crucif-x, ynb and those who like japanese and korean movies and series.
I will still support these forum. I will surely wait for the updates patiently....
Anaksulnamun
06-18-2005, 10:21 AM
You said something completely inflamatory and pointless, twoards a simple question.
Asked for some date or anything for the torrents and you replyed about how ungratefull and shit I was. How I should be glad of the site, etc., then complained about me complaining.
Wasn't needed for a simple question.
There ya go, jerk.
When I received his PM cuz I want to know the whether I offended him so he neg rep me in this thread about Atachi's tracker :http://hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?p=416845#post416845 and I got that answer ,and know I have the apprication to read this thread of him :D ,how gratefull I am ...lmao .Er ,I think he would leave I suppose :D
I will stay here untill the torrent is online again ,so that I can leech again :D
Desmonthes
06-18-2005, 10:24 AM
stay, by my side :p
guess i'll leeching anime and hgames somewhere while continue my spamming career here :D
i really hate to say goodbye so i'll stick around till the end
NvadrApple
06-18-2005, 11:18 AM
I'm staying. I like the community and I made some new friends! ;)
Vy Low
06-18-2005, 11:25 AM
Of course I'll stay!!!!!
this is a great place to be ^ ^
plus the people here are also very great and accomodating....
Hongfire's the best place there is....
Reckless_ONE
06-18-2005, 11:28 AM
yeah I'm staying too :) , but untill Hong Fire gets back on its feet where can we go to get our dose of hentai? As far as I know Hong Fire is the best place on the web to find up to date releases.That's what I like about it ,and the community ofcores
Bubblemonkey
06-18-2005, 11:37 AM
Like I said in another thread, I hardly went to the torrents/gallery sections anyway. I found that I spent more time cruising the forums more than anything else, so yeah...I'm staying.
I was kinda hoping to see what the people who voted "No" had to say about it, but whatever.
goatman321
06-18-2005, 11:49 AM
I'm staying. I've been looking for a forum to be a part of for awhile now. I think i've finally found my home.
Gyoru
06-18-2005, 11:55 AM
Why would you leave? The torrents are bound to come back up eventually. Just have some patience.
pakerat
06-18-2005, 11:57 AM
of corse i'm going to stay, with the gallery and the torrents gone doesn't mean that there not going to be back up. just means that the sites going through some hard times right now.. ;)
Dreamerdgh
06-18-2005, 11:58 AM
Also with the gallery pretty much gone also...
Is anyone going to stay?
All the stuff that lured 95% of the people here is gone now...
Lets see...
This is actually in defense of Anaksulnamun
Since I was first person at this post, I know you posted that you would not stay, SO WHY THE POST DUH. I'll actually be happy that the people who don't contribute and do nothing but leech, complain and ask for reseeds LEAVE, then the core members will enjoy this site even more. In other words, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
morio
06-18-2005, 12:02 PM
I'll probably stay, and explore the other ares better.
Alas, I miss the games.. They were the reason I found this place..
shiwei
06-18-2005, 12:03 PM
i sure will stay... Hongfire is a big community, sometime some info can find here.. ^^
Anaksulnamun
06-18-2005, 05:06 PM
Weeee :D A lot of ppl will stay ,but I'm too freaking off when someday we will change our title to :HongFire anime News Network :D
Wee ~ ,Shragei is working hard & harder to get back our torrents and gallery :) .And we must bear this precious moment a litle :D .Cuz when it comes to licensed issue ,it's dangerous if the hoster suddently shut our site off :(
PrinceKr85
06-18-2005, 05:16 PM
i will stay.. since i love the community here so much :D
i've made new friends and met new people, all i can say is that they have helped me change as a person... :D
definately staying :d
The Hermit
06-18-2005, 05:19 PM
While i miss the torrents section, and pray for its speedy return, i'll still loiter around. Hongfire was one of the best torrent place on the net, and i hope it comes back to that, but i like the forums aswell :)
Mai Tokiha
06-18-2005, 05:24 PM
No question, of course I'll stay! :D
This is a very nice forum with with lots of very nice peoples, I'd be really stupid if I would leave.
was wondering why I lost access to torrent forums a week or so ago ; ;
Sad times.
Canaan
06-18-2005, 05:33 PM
No doubt I'm staying. HF is among the best forums out there. :D
etcother
06-18-2005, 07:38 PM
i'm staying, this is the network for anything Japanese, anime, hentai and more!
people still post torrent links in threads, just coz they're not openly listed anymore doen't dissappoint me.
I LUV HONGFIRE!!!!!
Rockskin
06-18-2005, 07:44 PM
I'll stick around. This place offers a lot of othe good stuff.
nnadia
06-18-2005, 07:51 PM
i am staying as well :D
HFJuon
06-18-2005, 08:00 PM
Unlike some of you (no I won't rat you out) I will be brutally honest. I was introduced to hongfire as a premo site for dl hentai manga. Other sites have hentai anime but this was by far the best site I have ever found for the manga.
Now I will have to search for a new site. If I should find one my time here will shift to there. I'm just being honest. It's inevitable. It's like having a girl friend but then meeting someone new that you can't stop thinking about. Eventually you'll try to find more time to spend with her. If it gets serious there's only one thing to do then.
danath
06-18-2005, 08:16 PM
i will stay through thick and thin. there's too much in here to leave. with or without the bonuses. the forums is the main point here anyway.
Will Stay even if the only NOT DISABLED thing is this Poll :D:D:D ^_^U
Knifes
06-18-2005, 08:28 PM
heh heh.... so far this forum's pretty "young" (compared to other major anime ones) before it got revised... say in late august of 04? So I do think Hongfire will just continue on as it did before :D:p
But as for me... I'm sticking to place for like an uber time longer :D:p I mean I don't think the HF regulars here would want a Knifes's black dirt thread on many of the closely guarded secrets here... (thats what happens if I decide to leave) :D:p
Besides, I came here for the gallery, but I stay here for the forums ;)
It's gonna take a lil bit more to take me out :D:p
oh btw.. what's up with this poll? :D:p Of course the majority will say yes... I mean I would want to believe this is the forums ya know...
juan899
06-18-2005, 08:32 PM
Staying aswell.
Vegetarian
06-18-2005, 09:07 PM
I dont post as nearly as much as I read...but i'll stick around.
Maria Renard
06-18-2005, 09:56 PM
is this thread subjective? ^^U...
mmh... let
ohoni
06-18-2005, 10:04 PM
Sorry, but I came here for the torrents. I don't need US copywriten material, they can cut that out no problem, but if they don't restore the other torrents then there really isn't a reason to come here (there are plenty of other chat forums out there). The question is kind of silly, it's like "Would you still go to Starbucks if they stopped selling coffee?"
Anaksulnamun
06-19-2005, 12:31 AM
Lmao ,I just read carefully his thread :D .Poll:staying without any content ;) and sure we have some ppl will leave :D .Sure my friend ,for some ppl just come here to download hentai anime and manga ,+ HCG ,we 're surely dont have ANY content now :( ,but ...for our forum veterans (er ,not me ,I suppose :D ) HongFire itself is a GREAT content , a GREAT community ...so ,many of us will stay here :D
But honestly ,who dont want our torrents back ;) :D :p
Neko-Chars
06-19-2005, 12:35 AM
Even torrent is gone I will be stayinghere ^^V
p.s i got my exam just around ther corner
Abicion
06-19-2005, 01:00 AM
I'm staying. The times I posted/downloaded torrents were few and far between, and I pretty much abandoned the galleries months ago anyway.
Firestorm8880
06-19-2005, 08:35 AM
hmm...i came here for the torrents but found that this is the most polite forum of all i've ever known, and the ones who are just here for the torrents don't seem to post, so we got a good community here...i never really bothered about the gallery myself...
so, i'm definitely staying, coz this is the best forum i've ever been to...i'd definitely like to know some of the people in this forum better. (since i've only been around for 14 days, which is like about 10 days without the torrents...)
KidSteel
06-19-2005, 08:51 AM
Guess it's not a question if I or other regulars would leave HF, but if the lack of a torrent-section would lower the attractivity of HF as a whole.
Great community is nice and all, but when nobody finds it in the first place it won't stay like this (since many members discovered the forums via the torrents in the past). :p
Karis Fra Mauro
06-19-2005, 08:54 AM
Torrents are gone? I hadn't noticed... :) Actually I admit when I first started using the site it was just to leach, but hopefully I've matured a bit since then. I swear my ratio is better than it looks, really! Anyway there're tons of great links here, interesting topics, and of course it's set up most excellently if I do say so myself. Heck, maybe it's for the best if torrents are gone. Judging from the poll results so far most people are of a similar viewpoint anyway.
cattz
06-19-2005, 10:08 AM
I don't know why everyones spinning it, but it's as simple as are you going to stay with no content?
I know that if this was posted in the torrent section before they announced they where disableing it, it would be vice versa percentage wise in the voteing, I know that.
Of course it's going to be subjective when it's posted in the general chat, hell, I'll admit i don't read the general chat whatsoever really, I don't really like reading all the off topic randomness that has nothing to do with anything (Did you ever xxxxx, Would you ever xxxx, whats your xxxx, etc., etc.)
And if I remember right, wasn't hongfire just a kiddy porn, lolita, whatever, torrent site to begin with? Since when did it turn into an anime disccusion hub...
darkandshadow
06-19-2005, 10:20 AM
I've been here for a long while and I'm planning to stay.
I love the forums here! The torrents are just a bonus to this site!
In general, I like sharing things, and I like anime/dl'ing anime/music and misc., plus all of the cool people I've interacted with all this time. If the forums did go down, I bet half of us would contact Hongfire himself to let us access to the site and rebuild it from the ground up. I'd be the first to call him up.
I believe a lot of us have matured over the months and some of us years, (I'm in the months section, of course, because I'm still immature ;) ) and would be willing to help out in any way we can to keep this site going as long as possible...even if it means the world is going to end... (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27582), which I posted there too, but I would give up a lot of my time over the summer just to fix this wonderful site that I've always enjoyed.
LONG LIVE HONGFIRE!!!!
**Clearly good at motivation speeches**
Dreamerdgh
06-19-2005, 10:21 AM
Cattz. You still here. I guess we know why you can from your last post.
Kolyce
06-19-2005, 11:17 AM
Hmmm everybody wants to stay? This reminds on what the famous Dreamcast Echolon group said once:
"(XX releases and) we are here to stay!"
PS: HEY HF CREW= why dontcha use a server in Canada like other sites. Seems ya r on a really safe side, then... It's not forbidden in Canada to share copyright protected material :D
Shido_Tatsuhiko
06-19-2005, 11:37 AM
Not everyone will stick around, but a few people will do. An anime forum is very enjoyable whether it has downloadable links for anime or not. HF could stay as a lounge or something of the sort.
I just want to say that Hentai files are the ones to blame for this, because it wasn't ADV Films that sent HF a C&D letter, it was NuTech Digital, that licenses only hentai titles, and didn't enjoy seeing their released or soon-to-be-released titles here, in mkv/avi formats, being available for free for everyone.
I haven't downloaded such contents and never will (I dislike hentai contents), but I pretty much visited HF for the Anime-Raws section (I collect raws mostly for fansubbing purposes), and I know that no one should complain (after all, this is a FREE -as in no one HAS to pay, but are welcome to donate when possible- Website), but it seems unfair that because of the hentai contents, other anime contents had to be removed, thus causing HF this problems.
I am aware that this community became popular for the hentai contents, after all, they're the most downloaded (pretty much like pornographic titles everywhere); but, now HF has lost all of its regular torrent-site contents because of such titles. So, people that expect to find the same amount of hentai content here, forget about it. And don't come here complaining about it, because HF is at risk state right now; remember that copyright laws do exist, starting in Japan. And so, if Japanese companies decide to send C&D letters to all fansubs out there, you know what will happen. Remember the Media Factory event a couple of months ago? Well, don't put pressure in HF's administrators if you don't want to see HF shutting down.
On a final note, I know that my post doesn't matches what the post title referrs, but I just wanted to add my two cents to this response.
Bye and live peacefully ;)
Dreamerdgh
06-19-2005, 11:51 AM
Hmmm everybody wants to stay? This reminds on what the famous Dreamcast Echolon group said once:
"(XX releases and) we are here to stay!"
PS: HEY HF CREW= why dontcha use a server in Canada like other sites. Seems ya r on a really safe side, then... It's not forbidden in Canada to share copyright protected material :D
Yes, its also forbidden in Canada, its just the market in canada is smaller so the distributors, if any, don't bother to sue. The safest place for a server that shares all torrents regardless of copyright would be in a third world country, China, India, Phillipines, you get the drift, but bandwidth in 3rd world countries is expensive.
darkandshadow
06-19-2005, 12:01 PM
My point exactly. That's why it is very important to keep your torrents that you have away from large crowds. Even on my side of the border.
ronmy24
06-19-2005, 12:04 PM
Stay or not Staying...? Let the time decide. Well, I did come to know this site from torrent files. Can't say much, because not much I can help, except leech and reseeding. I'll stay for the forum, once in a while, like I always do. I still prefer this community for infos and discussions, so let it be...
Kolyce
06-19-2005, 12:19 PM
As far as I know it is... however, p2pnet.net posted this article on 2005-06-16
[Quote] Canada copyright delay?
p2pnet.net News:- Word was that proposed new Canadian copyright legislation would be tabled this week.
It's reportedly been nipped and tucked to bring it more into line with Big Music requirements, although it wouldn't have answered quite all its demands. Or maybe it would have.
Certainly, CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association of America) mouthpiece Graham Henderson seems a little confused by it all. "This is terrific news," he said in March. "Canada is one step closer to having a copyright law that will reflect the realities of the digital marketplace and allow the music industry a chance to prosper."
Then this month, "Not only is it not as tough as we would like. It doesn't provide the adequate legal framework that we would like."
However, it looks as if Henderson and his employers, the Big Four record labels, may have to wait a while longer to see if their expensive and pervasive lobbying efforts will come to anything.
cool9999
06-19-2005, 12:20 PM
Also with the gallery pretty much gone also...
Is anyone going to stay?
All the stuff that lured 95% of the people here is gone now...
Lets see...
:) it will be better soon
No i shouldnt think so, its not just torrents here you know. But if the torrents do go forever theres certainly gonna be a decrease in activitiy
seiichiro0185
06-19-2005, 02:37 PM
I'll definitely stay! Ok, torrents and gallery are nice (and gallery is back online as far as i saw ^_^), and where the things that brougth me here first, but I think the community is the heart of this site, without it there wouldn't be any torrents or galleries. So as long as the community is still alive I won't leave.
Zapper216
06-19-2005, 02:45 PM
of course i'll stay I never used the torrents anyway (don't know how T.T) and I some times used the gallery but I mostly use the forum
NamelessChibi
06-19-2005, 02:51 PM
I shall be staying. Even as a lurker and hopefully wth the Torrents return I can once again go back to downloading and seeding them for the masses.
darkandshadow
06-19-2005, 02:53 PM
WE, the Forum-Goers are the meat and potatoes of this site!
Dreamerdgh
06-19-2005, 02:58 PM
WE, the Forum-Goers are the meat and potatoes of this site!
Hmmm, am I Meat or Patatoes? :)
darkandshadow
06-19-2005, 03:02 PM
Let me test!
**takes a bite out of dreamers arm**
Hmmm...**Chewing**...a bit chewy...**chewing**...needs gravy and salt...**swallows** I believe we have a piece of meat here!
SonicTMP
06-19-2005, 03:02 PM
Message boards are a dime a dozen. And there are far better ones that have more content that encourages you to post and whatnot. Unless hongfire brings back torrent and gallery or does something to actually encourage people to post, ain't much reason to be here except for those who foudna few friends and wanan keep chatting with them.
nupito
06-19-2005, 03:03 PM
I'll stay, too!! I like comunity hongfire, with o without torrents :)
Akarui Kibuno
06-19-2005, 03:11 PM
I see no reason why I should leave the forums. I mean, why would "no torrents" mean "no content" ? Does it means people posting on the forums are so worthless of people's attention that some others just NEED torrents and just can't enjoy posting around here ?
Okay, I did come here first cause someone had posted links to HF torrents. Since I didn't want to be considered as a leecher, I came, registered, and waited a bit before posting cause I always lurk around forums before doing that. But as long as I'll enjoy posting, I'll stay here.
darkandshadow
06-19-2005, 03:12 PM
Actually, with the all of these people at the forums, they could make special contests: I.e: My International Lego Build-Off.
Click HERE (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27795)
and sign up for it!
baka_neko
06-19-2005, 03:30 PM
I'll probably lurk a bit when I am sitting around bored wondering what to do (which happens once or twice a week - since I spend about 10 hours a day between work and the commute).
oh - and where can you get that live action sailor moon show? I'm interested in checking that out :)
Stiuart
06-19-2005, 04:20 PM
I'm staying:)
I'm here for people not for torrents.
But my plan was to share things I have.
So when the torrents will be back I'll can give something from me:)
Kolyce
06-19-2005, 04:21 PM
Yes, its also forbidden in Canada, its just the market in canada is smaller so the distributors, if any, don't bother to sue. The safest place for a server that shares all torrents regardless of copyright would be in a third world country, China, India, Phillipines, you get the drift, but bandwidth in 3rd world countries is expensive.
Canada deems P2P downloading legal, levies MP3 players
By John Borland, Special to ZDNet
15 December 2003
Downloading copyrighted music from peer-to-peer networks is legal in Canada, although uploading files is not, Canadian copyright regulators said in a ruling released Friday.
More information's: ZDNET (http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/0,39023166,20281895,00.htm) , P2PNET (http://p2pnet.net/story/3514).
EDIT: "9. BitTorrent
BitTorrent? What's this doing on the winners list, weren't all those torrent sites driven offline by Big Media?
BitTorrent is on the list because of the fact that a third of all Internet traffic is delivered through it. The recent legal attacks against torrent sites have taken a toll, but the Net and its supporters have always shown an amazing resiliency and flexibility. eXeem is one example of this fluidity. The torrent sites will bounce back, most likely in countries more friendly to P2P. As the Canadian courts have declared P2P legal that country has become a safe haven.
Honorable mention goes to Loki Torrent for fighting back against the copyright cartel." from P2PNET
A LaZy PaNdA
06-19-2005, 04:34 PM
Plain and simple :
Hongfire is Hongfire. Its another sexy forum I go on. If this forum was gone, and it was pure tracker.... I would only come on the site for like 1 minute a week. Because its forums, if a thread catches my eye I'll hop in and read. If its to much to read I'll flop to the end and post. I spend maybe 1 hour a week here in the forumssssssssssssssssss
Dreamerdgh
06-19-2005, 04:50 PM
Kolyce, thats what they are targeting in USA now, but you sue everyone from the uploader, downloader, and up the foodchain. While moving servers to canada might work for a short time, sooner or later lawmakers will catch up. Currently in USA they are suing uploaders of MP3 files and downloaders of MP3 files.
Shinma3x
06-19-2005, 05:05 PM
Anyhow, nobody gonna stop me from leaving this site, the forums and the community is too awesome for me to just leave, so Im staying! :D
the community here seems pretty cool. torrents never really bothered me anyway, so it's no big deal. if they come back, it's a bonus =)
Kolyce
06-19-2005, 06:42 PM
Kolyce, thats what they are targeting in USA now, but you sue everyone from the uploader, downloader, and up the foodchain. While moving servers to canada might work for a short time, sooner or later lawmakers will catch up. Currently in USA they are suing uploaders of MP3 files and downloaders of MP3 files.
Well, lot's of Torrent sites use a canadian server. Even if Canada will change their laws, there's still plenty of time untill they do that.
I think that's the best HF can do atm! A canadian host will be better as no host at all... And in the meantime, the HF staff can look for a server in China or so. I bet everyone will donate some money for a new server somewhere else!!
How a about a big donate event for a new server?!? If every member would only spend 3-5bucks... imagine the amount of money HF would have for new servers....
Well i ve the regret to say that i m staying and for long i hope, i won t leave no no no, hongfire is my home since 1 month and i dont want to move again (snnniiirff !!)
well about torrents, i must confess that i m very sad, i enjoyed the anime hentai section but i believe that Patience is the key :eek: ! yep very soon torrents will come back for sure :cool: I have good relations with the president :rolleyes:
so evrybody, enjoy the forum while waiting ok ^^ ?
hongfire is not dead , mada mada dane :p
I'm also here to stay, with or without torrents(not forever I hope :confused: ).
shonan
06-19-2005, 06:49 PM
I don't really care much about the torrents section. I much care more about the community and participate as much discussions as possible.
ShadowTemplar
06-19-2005, 06:50 PM
I will stay, for this is the best forum i've evr been in. it's big enough to have interesting threads, and small enough for most regulars to gain atleast some level of notablity, and most importantly it doesn't have all those 'America VS *other nation*" and other such stupid threads.
In any case i'm sure the torrents will come back, if only with amv's, fan made stuff and thing that are not in North Ameicain stores.
Rugal
06-19-2005, 07:00 PM
I'm here to discuss, not for torrents.
I can walk out and buy 2nd hand anime DVDs here in case if I wanted to watch it. So no problem with that. In fact, I never concerned about torrents at all from the beginning.
tenzil
06-19-2005, 08:18 PM
I'll admit I came here for the torrents, but I like reading the posts, even if I don't post that much, I'll still stay and check out this place. Probably will contribute more now.
animebadass1984
06-19-2005, 08:37 PM
Also with the gallery pretty much gone also...
Is anyone going to stay?
All the stuff that lured 95% of the people here is gone now...
Lets see...
I say there's no need for dramas
The torrent thing is TEMPORARY, and I want to hae confidence and trust on the admin council, that they're doing anything that's posible to solve this issue
Yeah, sure, the torrent is the main attraction here. But what can you tell me about the discusions, the chats, etc...
Aren't they valuable too????
Either way, I've started HERE a little campaign, for you to see and readout
PEace!!!
neeko08
06-19-2005, 08:45 PM
I'll be here for the long run
RiceBoI
06-19-2005, 08:46 PM
why not stay... i read some pretty... interesting stuff here ^-^ keeps me entertained even though i dunt always post back.. i try though XD
pod_cagava
06-19-2005, 08:48 PM
Ah....sorry for being quite ignorant, but I finally understand why I couldn't access the torrents. :( As you can see from my status, I don't post very often. But I do enjoy reading most of the posts from the various forums. Torrents are what first drawn me here, but the community by far is one of the best for anime! I'll stay for sure!
Cyberfoxbat
06-19-2005, 08:58 PM
I was here when the tracker was up, I was here when the tracker was down, and honestly speaking - I don't realy hang around for the trackers - only occasionaly sweeping up a rare game or cg pack that comes along - or seeding. I haven't had the time to post recently due to work/study/insomnia - but I like the community the way it is - and I don't think will suffer badly from the lack of torrents. The only thing that would put me off would be the kind of evil ads that showed up a while ago (but were fixed by the team quickly).
NOW FOR SOME CUT N PASTE!!
I was thinking about posting this for a while - due to lack of time/net I didn't untill the torrents propper came back up and went down again..... sorz if I'm repeating someone else or make many spelling/grammar mistakes - It's 5:00AM and I can't sleep (and am ctrl+C/ctrl+v ing from a old topic).
While the torrents where "hidden" Hongfire wasn't catching any flack.
Honestly - I wouldn't mind going back to that because:
1)Hongfire stays the way it is - with a nice community
2)The "big" companies won't want a piece of Hongs ass for running torrents - especialy if the torrent files are stored elsewhere (if you have enough brains to make a torrent you'll probbably be smart enough to be able to host em somewhere).
3)If any other companies decide to follow "Media Factory's" route of threatening legal action against material not licenced anywhere other than Japan - Hongfire will probbably not be noticed, with the sharks going for the big openly distributing sites.
As for not distributing material licensed in the US - fine by me, even if I don't live there (thank god )I probbably wouldn't D/L the stuff anyway.
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Summing it up:
To me the hongfire is a great place to download RARE stuff you won't find on other websites, with a great community atmosphere. You don't need the tracker and "overt" torrent page - I and I guess many others can make do without that - just keep Hongfire the way it is (was a month ago)
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As for torrent control - if the current admin/mod team can't handle the tough task of torrent control I'd suggest giving each dedicated sub-forum to a sub-mod, a specialist in the area he moderates.
If not trusted enough, make the mod unable to delete or edit threads, but able to move the thread to a seperate closed forum, where the "trusted" or old mod/admin team can decide what to do with the thread/torrent.
If this goes through - sign me up for HCG and H-Games, I *cough* know a lot about that area* and often seed stuff there........
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blade1983
06-19-2005, 09:04 PM
i am here and will stay here.... this place was always a good site
SaintXaero
06-19-2005, 09:20 PM
i was never really active with posting. but i read the forum posts and i figure i'll still stay.
chief977
06-19-2005, 09:35 PM
I love this place. As long as the forums exist, I'll be here.
cattz
06-20-2005, 01:14 PM
Well, yes, I just came here for the english magna translations and packs/collections that caught my eye.
It's good to have a friendly community, but it's just the whole realization of the fact that theres MILLIONS of boards that offer just the same thing.
And I'm almost positive lolita torrents are what started this site, could be wrong, but pretty positive that was it's focus, releasing torrents, then the forum was added later down the road...
Oh and a bonus:
Negative feedback (by Anaksulnamun, the girl who hates me because I pointed out that she *****es and complains at anyone who says anything remotely critical twoards hongfire, and we all know why women support the community over the trackers content...)
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Yes ,HF started just as a normal tracker ,and now it's a community for us .I will be glad if I dont see ya anymore :mad:
Thats the whole point of asking this question, it started as a tracker, is the site now a forum based community instead of the original purpose? Will people stay knowing that answer?
JohnnyM
06-20-2005, 01:46 PM
I'll Stay, But I sure miss the game and movie torrents, it's hard to find any sites that had such a great diversity.
seorang
06-20-2005, 02:11 PM
I've no reason to leave atm. I might not stay as active if the torrents don't come back for a long time, but I won't leave.
Of course, once the gallery and torrents come back, those who left will suddenly appear again. Personally, I'd prefer the torrents section become "hidden" again - there's enough leechers as it is.
And if I remember right, wasn't hongfire just a kiddy porn, lolita, whatever, torrent site to begin with? Since when did it turn into an anime disccusion hub...
Just in case you didn't know, there are other sections as well, like anime and manga. Not just hentai. Sure, its the most active here, but go to most general torrent sites, and you'll find that hentai/porn is the most active anywhere.
Not to mention most sites nowadays have their own forum/discussion areas.
deadcoat
06-20-2005, 10:10 PM
Well I am staying around. First came for the torrents though now I enjoy the forums may not have gone into the forums sections if the torrents were always up.
As for locating the server in Canada it might be a good idea if possible to register hongfire as an educational institute as that educational institutes are excempt from most of the stuff in the copyright act. For infringement the plaintiff Record Company, Artist, etc must prove that the sharing done by the person or persons has infringed in such a way that they lost a significant amount of monetary gain.
So if hongfire does get a server in Canada the very least hong should do is put a quota on how many times each torrent can be downloaded as to not negatively effect the monetary gain the original owner.
In Canada it is legal to have a single copy of a work as long as the original or copy or destroyed within 30 days. (Well at least that is my understanding the copyright act is long and not very well written.).
Okay here are some links I have posted some of them before but sorry I can not remeber in which thread. http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-42/39253.html
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35468.html#article-30.3
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35468.html#article-27
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35468.html#article-28.2
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35468.html#article-29.7
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35468.html#article-30.2
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35468.html#article-30.3
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35591.html#article-42
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35725.html#article-79
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/fr/C-42/35725.html#article-80
P.S if hongfire does get a server in Canada all the loli material would have to go cause of the strict Canadian anti child porn laws. Okay yes you can try to fight it but is it really worth the legal costs.
xxxkHOLiC
06-20-2005, 10:29 PM
i will stay, but this place was my main source of anime :*(
Anaksulnamun
06-21-2005, 01:45 AM
Negative feedback (by Anaksulnamun, the girl who hates me because I pointed out that she *****es and complains at anyone who says anything remotely critical twoards hongfire, and we all know why women support the community over the trackers content...)
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Yes ,HF started just as a normal tracker ,and now it's a community for us .I will be glad if I dont see ya anymore :mad:
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Thats the whole point of asking this question, it started as a tracker, is the site now a forum based community instead of the original purpose? Will people stay knowing that answer?
Yes ,I came here first to download anime (not hentai ;) ) and frankly ,who dont come here with the very frist motivation to download sth from our tracker ;) ?
And I still dont get ur point cattz ,if ya want to leave the site ,why dont ya leave in silent ...and why ya need to convince ppl to leave with ya ?Or is it one of ur self excuse for being a mere leecher ?And leave u one reason to come back when our "content" is back again ?
Yes ,over MILLION of community overthere ,if ya say so ,why ya dont choose one of them and contribute all of ya best to one ?And *sign* ,even our neighbor 4chan are proud of their community ,but you not ?
And again ,dont repeat that again ,who all know that our torrent is down ,our gallery is lost (but still up right ;) ) ,and if we want to leave ,we will do it in our own will ,and we dont need ur pointed out those ...:mad:
Last I have my own right to hate ya ,first ya neg rep me for a this thread http://hongfire.com/forum/showthrea...6845#post416845 with "Your doing exactly what your complaining about",so I asked you politely why ya did it ,"did I do sth wrong?" so I could fix it,and when ya answer me with jerk ,shit ,pathetic ...ect ?Answer me ,and if I'm wrong ,read again ur sent PM ...:mad: