which is better bitcomet 0.59 or azurues?

[wweeaakk]

i heard that bitcomet just release a DHT. is this DHT technology will help us do the downloading on our files from the net n y wont the f**kin bitcomet n azures work together to form the ultimate p2p system for all of us to use.

[rhapsody9]

OMG OMG OMG... I've been waiting for BC to release another version with DHT!!! Oops... anyway, use BitComet, Azureus is a resource hog, although I use it sometimes...

[mgurusan]

I don't really like BC that much, sometimes has huge problems checking the files it downloads, and I still don't like the fact that it used to horribly report info(dunno if that's fixed yet...) But I do like the fact that it's not coded in java... Hard choice but I prefer Azureus for now.

[Imaizumi]

You could just install both and use according to your needs. Both of them has it's plus and minus.
I use a lot of torrent client and right now im using bitspirit~ ^_^. You could try using Bitspirit. it doesnt take too much resource, and ok stability.

^_~
Chachaaan~

[chompy]

My advice...

use bitcomet and bittornado combined. bittornado for primary seeds from scratch, and bitcomet for everyday downloads.

azureus is a waste.

[ware4me]

You could just install both and use according to your needs. Both of them has it's plus and minus.
I use a lot of torrent client and right now im using bitspirit~ ^_^. You could try using Bitspirit. it doesnt take too much resource, and ok stability.

^_~
Chachaaan~Imai-chan knows :p

What i like of Azureus is the fast way to restart torrents, besides, my tracker runs on that client, so far, no problems. :D

BC, well, i don't like it... i hate that orange icon ><

[Neko516]

I think BC is fine. Azureus takes a lot from the CPU. :/
But that's just my opinion.

[[MCP]]

I like Azureus, i had up until now, no problems with cpu time or anything else...
But i havent't tried Bitcomet or Bittornado yet... ^^

MfG,
MCP

[htranou]

I'm all for Bitcomet. I do use bittornado for first seeding, but that's all.
There's also a little problem with bitcomet, it seems to prioritize the downloading tasks over the seeding tasks, but you just have to set a minimum upload on your seeds and it's ok.

I'd say, if you're under windows, go for bitcomet, else, azureus is probably the only client with a good gui.

[ANIMEPRO]

It dosen't matter much to me on witch one l use becuz l got 3 diffrent kinds of BT Program on my system :D

Azureus
BT-Tornado
BT-Commet

[StrawHatLuffy]

In terms of features, Azureus is definitely better and in terms of resource consumption, Bitcomet is better. So it really depends on the situation and the torrent you are wanting to download. In my case, I use Bitcomet most of the time, if not always.

[Chaka]

im using BitComet, easy to use and its really good, had no problems with it so far after using it since version 0.55.......i use to use Azurues but it requires java and im too lazy to download that =P

[ghost333]

i prefer bitlord
nice for seeding not heavy on resources
and good for every day dls

[Stiuart]

I have only azureus and till now now problems.
But maybe I will instal some others BT and se as it will be working.

[mgurusan]

I just tried out BC again.. and wouldn't you know, the first tracker that I try has banned bitcomet -.-. I guess I'll wait for the next version. I wish there was another c++ based BT client. I like Bit Tornado a lot actually, it just wasn't mentioned in the whole "which one is better" part. :p great for downloading and seeding, major drawback is the lack of a single gui.

[jsnut]

I already said it (probably few times) but I'll say it again. It's a matter of preferrence. Use what fits your need. ;)

[Neko516]

Actually everybody use what they like - and (surprisingly :P) it's working fine, not like the other one they hate/don't like/never tried. :D

Hmm... Ok so I really don't like Azureus because of the JAVA. Sure on the newer computers it won't take a second (probably :P) to load, but I have a "little" slower PC. BC is easy to use and faster than Azureus, but also has less option (and has a few useless thing :/).

[phenix0000]

I used both Azureus and Bitcomet. Now I primarily use Bitcomet. Azureus I might try again sometime. The whole needing java thing is somewhat of a downer though. Java is pretty heavy on resources and sometimes slow.

But each to his own.

[GDL]

Anyone ever used Overnet/Edonkey2k with the BT plugin?, works real good for me, and downloads faster than any other client I've tried . . .

Also it has a very useful option which is to sincronize the torrent with the ed2k network to find even more sources to download from(has some limitations tho, but still good) . . .

[pLue]

Bitcomet seems to use less CPU usage for me so i prefer that over Azurues.

[Keisuke]

i prefer bitlord
nice for seeding not heavy on resources
and good for every day dls
Sorry to tell you that but BitLord is a COMPLETE rip off of BitComet, same core, same version number (what a coincidence) and even unfinished files have the extension*.bc. BC? Doesn't that remind you of...BitComet? How surprising!
The only thing it adds (not true anymore see below) is a built-in search engine and links to porn (check out those "XXX" in the user interface). So, I'm sorry but BitLord's total crap. Use the ORIGINAL client instead, that is, BitComet. The latest version includes a built-in search engine too, and has DHT support.

Back to the question, I'll say, you all have guessed, BitComet all the way!
I've used Azureus and while the GUI is nice and such, it's a ressource hog. I don't like either the fact that it runs with Java. First, as everyone said it's heavy on my comp and second, I may be paranoid but I have to grant all access to java with my firewall to make it run, which I don't like: not safe to me. Azureus sure has a lot more features but who cares since I don't use half of them!
Whereas BitComet is light, runs fast, has high download speed and is fully customizable with the upload (please note that I set my upload rate to the max of my bandwith capability, only 30KB/s I know but I always seed at the max though). It has a very nice GUI IMO, and is user-friendly.
Conclusion: BitComet's my weapon of choice for all torrents (except unfortunately torrents on trackers that banned BC like *cough* kickassanime *cough*, for that I use ABC).

[Mai Tokiha]

BitComet is much better, hands down... it doesn't suck your ressource like mad (as Azureus does), and is faster as well :D
Only other client worth considering is BitTornado.

[watnaron]

I only use BitComet caz from my experience it is the best.
I tried the other program as well but BitComet is the best and I'm now using 0.59.

[cattz]

I find azerus to have everything I need.

Although it's handshake system of connecting to peers, causes downloads quite a while before they work up a good download regardless of everything, including your contribution, speed, percent, etc.

But theres a lot of options and different ways to set it up for every need.

It's also one of the few clients that can be configured to download many DIFFERENT torrents, without haveing 10 torrents all "active" at once.

[painsama]

BitComet & BitTornado on Windows and Azureus & BitTornado on Linux.

I prefer using BitComet on Windows, it's not as memory hogging as Azureus, since it uses C++, while Azureus uses Java, and relies on JRE. But I can run Azureus just okay in Linux even on an old computer.

[rhapsody9]

Another advantage for bitcomet is you can download many torrents at once without slowing down your PC (I can dl 8+ torrents at once). When I run 3 torrents using BitTornado and Azureus, I can easily tell that the performance is dropping... (heck, my computer would lag like hell with azureus...)

Btw, I agree with what Keisuke said. Sure, Azureus has many plug-ins, but not everyone uses all of them, and some are completely useless.

EDIT:

*BitLord is not a rip-off. It just uses the same core as BitComet's.
*BitComet has a "Ban Evasion" patch that would report itself as another client (Azureus, BitTornado and the Offical Client.)

[seiryu]

I never really tried Bitcomet, but I like azureus just fine :p:D

[Para]

*moved to help and support*

[Rasqual]

BitComet is a ***** when it comes to sharing as a leech (less for seeding) : it constantly reserves the slots for the same peers, those that you can pull the fastest from. While this is somewhat fair, it hurts my principles that anyone waiting in queue shall be served even if their upload speed isn't the greatest.

[Neo Zeed]

I just installed BitComet 0.59 (because PTC wasn't handling torrents with kanji). Is it just me or is this client slow? I was just downloading a large torrent with more then 40 peers and 3 seeds yet it I never got beyond 51k (it was usually around 20k). If I were using PTC I'm pretty sure that same torrent would been going over a 100k.

[howzitboy]

i was reading this:http://www.bittorrent.com/trackerless.html and i bet u are all gonna change program u using soon ( i hope soon).

oops , heres other link: http://forums.boxtorrents.com/viewtopic.php?t=28144

sounds kewl

[nighthawkxyz]

it is a matter of your decision,
i have both programs to back up each other just in case something should go wrong while i am desprarte to download,
but i prefer Azureus
i have massive DDR RAM and a 3ghz cpu that i don't really care if its using them
thats the point of having them in the 1st place, to be used
BitComet is ok too, C++ = my favorite programing language,
I program with java as well, but not prefered
however, when i use Azureus, i do use the Stuffer plug-in to block clients
such as
BitComet, Sharezaa etc.
those are known as leech clients modded by the users
theres one versio nof Azureus that was leech-modded
that also gets blocked by me,
depending on my mood, i would occasionaly unblock BitComet]

btw, BitComet and Azureus can't just merge, they use different programming language
if they do, they need to start from scratch
which i would imagine to be a pain in the a-s-s
since i hate to start things from scratch

[Ragnax]

Azureus > Bitcomet

Unlike some other people, I'm going to give some solid objective arguments backed up by some statistics.

Why Azureus ISN'T bad (for using Java)

Here's some fun information from a Win98SE user for all you Java-complainers;
JIT compiling and starting Azureus doesn't take any longer than 5 seconds on my 500 MHz machine. Azureus takes about 20 Mb of RAM (physical AND virtual!) when I run it, and remains stable at that. It also takes about 60% processor usage when it's busy, 5% when navigating the GUI and almost 0% when idle.
And the conclusion is; ...
It's not Azureus' fault if you can't get a JRE properly installed and running! The current line of JREs seems to have a really nagging problem with Windows 2000/XP (and XP SP2 in particular), so blame your experiences with Java on Microsoft (as usual).

(I've seen one other smart person here, who uses Azureus on alternative platforms where the problems with the JRE don't exist, such as Linux. Yes, I'm looking at you painsama. :) )

As for the problem with having to give full privileges for Java to your software firewall; Get - a - router! Routers have a hardware firewall built into them, which will take the stress off of your CPU when you are pumping a lot of data over your network, like BitTorrent tends to do. Not to mention they'll process data a lot quicker, since they've got dedicated hardware to do it with!
Again, this is not a problem with Java or Azureus, but with the firewall and/or operating system you are using. (Software firewalls SUCK, btw. None of them work completely without problems. They always have issues with something. Be it online games, virus scanners, or P2P clients.)

Using Java, or any other JIT compiled language for that matter, for a file distributing application is GOOD, considering Java is portable. As long as a proper JRE is available it can run on anything. (I'd like to hear people complain when someday they can start torrenting on voIP driven mobile phones with a client as fully featured as Azureus...)


Why BitComet IS bad

BitComet's own built in tracker can only communicate with other instances of BitComet. It doesn't implement the protocols for a BitTorrent tracker correctly. This is probably because BitComet's programmers introduced several 'enhancements', which actually broke the protocol, instead of taking the time to insure the #1 most important fact for network protocol revisions; remaining backwards compatible. FAIL! FAIL! FAIL!

[rhapsody9]

So what? Bitcomet's own tracker can be used by someone if he prefers it. It's NOT required for a torrent to run.

[jinjinjin333]

I'm all for Bitcomet.but i don't like it much.i am troubled by some changes such as the search system in IE.

[MassaRoddel]

... n y wont the f**kin bitcomet n azures work together to form the ultimate p2p system for all of us to use.
Standard is boring.

[Namieo]

BitComet sucked! I disconnected my connect and gave me an invaild IP address, plus, it lags on my connection. I'm going back to ABC...

[Ragnax]

So what? Bitcomet's own tracker can be used by someone if he prefers it. It's NOT required for a torrent to run.
BitComet still breaks the protocol by advertising itself as a valid BitTorrent tracker to all other non-BitComet clients when those use a BitComet tracked torrent file. Subsequently, all those non-BitComet clients get all sorts of connection errors. Whether it is only an option or not is irrelevant, as BitComet still breaks the protocol.

What BitComet's programmers should've done was either adher to the protocol (being backwards compatible), or invent a completely new protocol which can not be confused with a standard tracker protocol.

The first option is completely feasible as well; just look at Azereus. It has a built-in tracker with oodles of features (and a nice web interface), without breaking compatibility with other clients.


Let me make an analogy;
So what? The DVDs we make can be authored in region 2 if we feel like it. It's not our problem as long as we can still play region 1 as well.Get the point now?
BitComet breaking compatibility on its built-in tracker means you are introducing a chance of purposely denying users to connect to a torrent, thus shrinking the potential swarm, when that shouldn't have to be the case. That is bad practice for a swarming protocol like BitTorrent, which runs in optimum conditions when the swarm is as large as possible!

[duk]

my vote is bitcomet just b/c of the fact that running java requires more resources.

[Cobra]

bitcoment work fine with proxy too.
Azureus work with java, and use a lot CPU

[htranou]

Get the point now?
BitComet breaking compatibility on its built-in tracker means you are introducing a chance of purposely denying users to connect to a torrent, thus shrinking the potential swarm, when that shouldn't have to be the case. That is bad practice for a swarming protocol like BitTorrent, which runs in optimum conditions when the swarm is as large as possible!

I may be wrong, but I don't think bitcomet has a tracker included in the client. If you're talking about the peer info exchange, then it's different. For the DHT, it follows the spec of the official client, that isn't compatible with azureus' one, complain to cohen for not taking azureus prior implementation.

As for the bitcomet tracker, the only incompatibility there may be is the use of udp.

[Kolyce]

I've tried all BT clients and AZureus just kicks ass. Best client :D

[888888]

better bitcomet 0.59

[Ginn]

I used both BitComet and Azureus but I don't like Azurues because it consume a lot of my CPU. And it often do "something" as if it is hang the system and all that time I can't seem to do anything with my PC, that's annoying. That's why I will stick with BitComect as I find it more convenient to me. Despite of those things, both of them are good BT client. So, you guys should try every of them and see which one fit your "work". Yay! :D

Oh my god, BC 0.59 released already? I'm still using BC 0.8. I'm going to get the new one soon after finish downloading Initial D Live Action :D

[aznboysee]

bitcomet is better cuz it doesnt use a lot of your cpu...

[wascloud]

I use Azureus .. i looove all the features in it (altho its not completely necessary) .. so if you just want to download something, maybe you could use another client, but if you want all the extra information, like who your downloading from ect. then go with azureus .. the only problem with it is that damn JAVA!!! .. altho i do like java..it's soooo ram hungry ... i swear .. after running azureus for a few hours, more than half my ram is eaten up by azureus .. so for that reason, i can't run azureus and another resource intensive program (for example photoshop) at the same time .. well i can, but everything works reallllllly slow :s ..

[coljung]

i use azureus even though it uses a lot of resources, i guess bitcomet doesn't use as much.

[OmegaZeroX]

I use Azureus and god it kills like hell but is there another client that can give more speed to download?

[LilAznBoi]

azureus i think is better because bitcomet on my pc is way slower than azureus. bitcomet go at about 11kb and my azureus go about 60kb. that is alot of difference.

[aznboysee]

i used to use azures.... but now i dont

[sempai kun]

i think Azureus is better but i use both bitcommet and azureus w/e it takes to gte anime or w/e iam trying to download......^_^

[aznboysee]

bitcommet has sum bugs....

[drkazndragon]

someone should add a vote poll.

[kamui]

The only real complaints aganist Azureus is that it takes up some cpu and ram. Big deal get more ram for your slow a** comp and get a better cpu. ur comp is going to get slower by the day so y not upgrade a little. It will help in the long run. Anyways I have a 512 stick of ram and an AMD 1 ghz and my comp runs fine. I leave Azureus on all night and not once have I ran into any problems with it. Well the only problems I see when i'm on Azureus is that BitComet users always send me bad data. I don't know if it is jus me but I get at least 50 mb of dicarded data from BitComet users. maybe it's cuz it doesn't follow the orginal BT protocol or what but most dls for me take anywhere from 3 hrs. But after I kick and ban all BitComet users it usually takes me 10-15 mins to dl. And you may think I'm mean for kicking and banning BitComet users but it's true, each and everyone of them sends dicarded data.


Unless you can give me a program that will see if I send bad data then shut up about Azureus being all bad. So what if it uses Java who cares, get past that and on with ur life. quit being a scaredy cat about Java, it's not gonna kill you.

With Azureus I cna get dl speeds anywhere from 30kb/s min to around 300kb/s max. maybe it's jus cuz i'm on cable but either way you can connect to more people with either Azureus or Bittornado. I also love the Nat checker that comes with it and the choice of what port you want to use.

If you don't want to then use Bittornado which is also very reliable. I perfer Bittornado and Azureus over any other client. And don't start me with Bitlord either since it runs the same core as BitComet and everything so it also gets kicked and banned by me.

[chrrox]

I use Azureus and It is the best bt program to date It has all the stuff you want and then some it supports all kinds of cool plugins and it has a very nice gui. as for a system hog i cant see how it can be one unless your running a vectra with windows xp and 128mb of ram lol. If you want to be gaming and use azerus I guess you need 512 ram and at least a 1.2 processor. I have a p4 2.0 and it uses only 1% of my cpu that is java and azerus combined. and it uses like 64mb of ram.

[SorryAngel]

I must agree with Ragnax post.

Stop also blaming any app because your ISP blocks some traffic or just because you are stuck in a bad torrent with nasty peers using weird protocols ;-)

Much of the time the problem you have with leeching is a bad cooperative use of power functions by morons !

Typically a Prisoner's dilemma : two prisoners ( leechers ) cooperate to minimise total loss of liberty ( 0 ko/s) or will one of them, trusting the other to cooperate, betray him ...

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma


Btw azureus had a nice SAFE PEERS plugin... and works perfectly with a "light" win 98 machine or a old nt4 system ... avoid win2k sp 2 ...

Of course it's easier to just say JAVA sucks but don't forget M$ sucks more !


usefull links :

http://www.bittorrent.com/trackerless.html

http://www.methlabs.org/

check this one please ...

I'm not 100% sure but it appears last Bitcomet had "strange" behaviours like a spyware or there is some compatibility problems with firefox ... under further investigations .

Finally ABC (http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/index.php) (based on BitTornado which extended from Original Bittorrent Core System , coded by Bram Cohen) is a cute simple choice for beginners ( avoid misconfiguration and so on ) and for every day life ;-)

just my 2 cts

[Yunsung]

i prefer azureus. The main reason is that it works under linux.
also it works pretty good so there's no reason for me to swich to BitComet

[Galaxy Defender Mk XXXIII]

Me, I use Bitcomet. I could use Azureus cause I have a good enough machine to run without problems.

Though, maybe it's just me, but I can't seem to download filenames/folders with kanji in them using Azureus though it works fine with Bitcomet.

That said, I do have both Azureus and Bitcomet installed. No one said you couldn't have more than one client on the machine.

[Ragnax]

Though, maybe it's just me, but I can't seem to download filenames/folders with kanji in them using Azureus though it works fine with Bitcomet.I had the same problem, but when I did a complete re-install of the JRE it went away. My guess is Java uses it's own set of 'eastern language' packs, different from the one in the resident OS, to maximize portability. If ofcourse you then don't install those packs...

[Ragnax]

Well the only problems I see when i'm on Azureus is that BitComet users always send me bad data. I don't know if it is jus me but I get at least 50 mb of dicarded data from BitComet users. maybe it's cuz it doesn't follow the orginal BT protocol or what but most dls for me take anywhere from 3 hrs. But after I kick and ban all BitComet users it usually takes me 10-15 mins to dl. And you may think I'm mean for kicking and banning BitComet users but it's true, each and everyone of them sends dicarded data.The new versions of Azureus have a nifty feature you might like; auto kick/ban of peers that keep sending bad data. ;) And yes; I used to get the same problem with some BitComet users.

[toutom]

i think azurues is the best

[Exssu]

I like azurues. I havn't tried any others but I might reconsider...

[sama98b]

Azurues/Bitcomet/Bitspirit/..
They are updating fast, so hard to decide what is the best at a time.

[kamui]

The new versions of Azureus have a nifty feature you might like; auto kick/ban of peers that keep sending bad data. ;) And yes; I used to get the same problem with some BitComet users.

oh yes I know of this but it seems it doesn't kick them for discarded data so yeah. but hey I don't mind kick about 20-40 people on each of torrents. that is when the torrent swarm is about 100 seeders and about 400 peers.