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krotch
12-26-2004, 12:02 PM
Well, I figured since my favorite weapon is become civilian legal, I want to know what weapon is your favorite. This has to be a real weapon and not something from an anime, movie, etc.

For me, my favorite is the P90 submachine gun. The civilian legal version will be known as the PS90 and will cost $1400. I plan on purchasing one when it's released late 05/early 06. I will also have to get it's counterpart, the Five-seveN. Both guns use a 5.7x28 round and have the ability to pierce body armor. The P90 does it at 200m while the Five-seveN does it from 100m. What does annoy me is that the PS90 will have a 30 round mag as opposed to the 50 round on the P90 and it'll also have a longer barrel.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/FNPS90.html

Anyways, what's your weapon of choice?

BOiNG!
12-26-2004, 12:08 PM
Fork. I can kill almost any living things in 47 different ways with a fork.
BTW, P90 is a really cool gun. Too bad the civillian version is watered down.

Grammaton
12-26-2004, 12:28 PM
thats a ugly p90 i love the p90 to but that one looks like it mother drank while she was pregnant with it...

egtirello
12-26-2004, 12:51 PM
well here the law is very annoying for one to have a weapon , I have a colt 9mm commander model and a .25 astra for backup,
I like the desert eagle .440 this uses the same round of the .50 but the diameter is downed to a .44 this give a lot of impact power and penetration too, that one will be my choice , btw the ps90 look cool

TaronWarrior
12-26-2004, 12:54 PM
Real men fight with their fists. :p

link455
12-26-2004, 12:57 PM
lol a sniper

DrWise
12-26-2004, 01:03 PM
Real men fight with their fists. :p

Then you will die first :p (kinda remind me of an episode of FMP fumoffu)...

Shybal Noom
12-26-2004, 01:03 PM
fists are good, unless you have an
O-Dachi
a japanese sword longer than 30 inch.
my ideal weapon of choice in any fight.

ChibiFirli
12-26-2004, 01:04 PM
flamethrower due to the extra functions of warming your hands, cooking dinner, destroying very ANNOYING muskietos, making a path in undergrowth, melting ice, ... the uses are infinite :D

hitokiri battousai
12-26-2004, 01:28 PM
For me it would have to be a katana made either by Masamune or Niji Kunitoshi. A PSG-1 would also be a very nice weapon.

vador
12-26-2004, 01:29 PM
Let me see... A gatling gun (see the scene in the movie Predator when the guy screams : "Contaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaact !")
This is a reliable weapon.

brakespear
12-26-2004, 02:10 PM
Luckily, most guns are not legal here in the UK...

My weapon? My feet (for running away with)

BloodyBunny
12-26-2004, 02:12 PM
whip...that's also good for something else...hehehehe

hoplala
12-26-2004, 02:15 PM
P90, thought that was a belgian-made gun.. That's not a far drive.

My weapon of choice would be Jackie Chan.. Just need to figure out how to fit him in my holster.

vador
12-26-2004, 02:17 PM
I thought you would have choosed your camera BloodyBunny ;)

Thenipple
12-26-2004, 02:17 PM
My choice is either a rattan staff, wax wood spear, or a kwan tao, maybe pa kua sun moon forks(but i still don't know how to use them that good), other than that its open palm for me. When I learn chain whip next year its going to r0xx0rz the c0ckz0r. =)

ChibiFirli
12-26-2004, 02:26 PM
P90, thought that was a belgian-made gun.. That's not a far drive.


It is, made somewhere in the french part of belgium where they also make the FN-series.

Fallen Angel
12-26-2004, 02:38 PM
My weapon of choice would be an army.

Dis
12-26-2004, 02:47 PM
Anyone ever read "DEATH NOTE" before...?
My weapon of choice would be "The Book of DEATH"
That kills you by writting you name in it...

hoplala
12-26-2004, 03:08 PM
Anyone ever read "DEATH NOTE" before...?
My weapon of choice would be "The Book of DEATH"
That kills you by writting you name in it...
And offcourse the author signed his own book..waahHAHAHAHA...

KiRkHaMet
12-26-2004, 03:17 PM
dual Desert Eagle
dual MP5K
Steyr Aug A1
and Barrett M82A1

Veniogenesis
12-26-2004, 03:18 PM
I've never been able to decide on what my favorite weapon is. It's harder for swords than for guns since there are so many custom types and stuff. In terms of shotguns, I think the Winchester 1897 maybe? ^_^ (Triela's shotgun, I might add... XD) Still can't decide my favorite pistol or assault/carbine though. Probably something from Beretta though.

cetme
12-26-2004, 03:27 PM
I got many to choose from but I'll go with my newly arrived 1943 enfield in 303brit.

http://img151.exs.cx/img151/1897/enfield_no4_mk1.jpg

But, I can always count on my cetme. :D

http://img152.exs.cx/img152/84/cetme-.jpg

brakespear
12-26-2004, 03:31 PM
Wow, you guys really like your guns don't you? :confused:

Knifes
12-26-2004, 03:54 PM
ooh my turn... just give me a pair fighting knives an I'll do wonders for close range combat... as for gun fights, a pair of the Taurus PT 9mm will do just fine. -shooting crossed armed, Brandon Heat style, is really cool/fun... but also very inaccuarate (you have no idea how many times I missed the target firing like that :) )

adun50
12-26-2004, 04:17 PM
I got many to choose from but I'll go with my newly arrived 1943 enfield in 303brit.

ZOMG! that's the same rifle that I would like to have. I'm a fan of WWII weapons. rep point for you!

burnout02urza
12-26-2004, 04:36 PM
For me...Well, a Magnum would be great. One shot, and anything smaller than a tiger goes down and doesn't get up.

TaronWarrior
12-26-2004, 04:43 PM
Then you will die first :p (kinda remind me of an episode of FMP fumoffu)...
Such an awesome show. I'm watching it again for sure now. XD

krotch
12-26-2004, 05:02 PM
Ah...old guns. Me right now, I have a S&W Sigma .40 cal. I'd rather go for a nice G3A3 over the cetme. I also have a liking for the L85A2 and F2000.

Kongming
12-26-2004, 05:14 PM
My weapon of choice...
http://img99.exs.cx/img99/7559/10946833314113da.jpg
We should be glad Saddam didn't have any of these!

syndromicon
12-26-2004, 05:37 PM
The H&K SOCOM or the Five-seveN, both are pistols.
Images:

SOCOM>
http://www.hkpro.com/socomusp.jpg

Five-seveN>
http://www.cmmginc.com/cmmg_images/tbl_images/Receivers%20Firearms/Five_SeveN.jpg

Alright, that was the guns ;)
I'm also in love with Katanas, and my favorite is the Nagakura Shinpachi Katana. An image of it: http://www.weaponmasters.com/images//products/WM/WM-3002L7.jpg

antchuck
12-26-2004, 05:42 PM
For me it would have to be a katana made either by Masamune or Niji Kunitoshi. A PSG-1 would also be a very nice weapon.

Yeah - a samurai with a sword in his right hand and a submachinegun in the other! I'd turn around and run instantly. :D

As for me any good bow would do. I just love bows.

Raven18940
12-26-2004, 05:43 PM
I'm a pistol person so my weapon of choice would be a 1911 with double stack magazines in 10mm. Enough firepower to stop anyone (and the person behind them :) ) and do it 15 more times. After that it's my trusty double barrel 12 gauge. Then a Mosin-Nagant 91/30 with a scope.

MinortyBreeder
12-26-2004, 07:02 PM
Riku's sword from Kingdom Hearts.

Veniogenesis
12-26-2004, 07:14 PM
Riku's sword from Kingdom Hearts.
I think the starter of the thread said it had to be a real weapon. ^_~;

Regards,
Veniogenesis

MinortyBreeder
12-26-2004, 07:17 PM
I think the starter of the thread said it had to be a real weapon. ^_~;

Regards,
Veniogenesis

Whoops. In that case, I would want to be like Dante and use guns and swords. I mean, not the kind he uses. I would want to use real swords and guns.

krotch
12-26-2004, 07:36 PM
The H&K SOCOM or the Five-seveN, both are pistols.
Images:

SOCOM>
http://www.hkpro.com/socomusp.jpg


That thing looks nice.

Kitee
12-26-2004, 07:55 PM
That's a great weapon of choice Kongming
It's such a pity that Canada doesn't allow gun owning.
Thus, I only have a few choices.
I have a real samurai sword in my living room for displaying, so I can use that if robbers come in. :D :D
But my favourite weapon is just a 9mm. It's small and can be deadly when mastered. :D :D

doctor//GENETIC
12-26-2004, 07:58 PM
AK-47! Long live kalashnikov! :p

Well, other than that, I like Bullpup Assault Rifles like FAMAS or Steyr AUG
And I would want to try out Heckler & Koch's New G11 Rifle with caseless ammunition :D

http://world.guns.ru/assault/g11.jpg

hitokiri battousai
12-26-2004, 08:00 PM
But my favourite weapon is just a 9mm. It's small and can be deadly when mastered. :D :D


Do you really think that it can be mastered. I personally dont believe anything can be mastered or become perfect. There are too many techniques which can be discovered which in my opinion would make mastering something wheather it be a weapon, instrument or anything of the sort, nearly impossible to master. But this is only my opinion, i may just be lazy. :p

Kitee
12-26-2004, 08:03 PM
Do you really think that it can be mastered. I personally dont believe anything can be mastered or become perfect. There are too many techniques which can be discovered which in my opinion would make mastering something wheather it be a weapon, instrument or anything of the sort, nearly impossible to master. But this is only my opinion, i may just be lazy. :p
I think that whether something is "mastered" or not depends on yourself. If you think that you've done everything that you could do to improve your skills on it, then I think it can be considered mastered.
That is how I approach this situation.

doctor//GENETIC
12-26-2004, 08:06 PM
But no matter how good you are with a pistol, It is still inferior to rifles ;)

chrysalis76
12-26-2004, 08:11 PM
P90 looks good, is it a real gun or an airgun?
My fav would still be desert eagle/P228 for a handgun, and M4A1 for a rifle. :D

krotch
12-26-2004, 08:12 PM
It depends on how you look at it. I wouldn't want to clear a building with a rifle. That'd be what a pistol or submachine gun is for. Also, a rifle isn't as easy to conceal as a handgun.

Each weapon design has it's pros and cons.

Edit:

The P90 is a real gun. Well, you can purchase an airsoft version of it for $300. The PS90 will cost $1400 and will fire the 5.7 x 28 rounds. As civilians though, we'll only get a single type of round, as opposed to the like 5 they created.

I may just use my tax return to buy the Five-seveN now in preparation for the PS90.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/818513001458.html

doctor//GENETIC
12-26-2004, 09:47 PM
So....... What would you use it for?

Logitechie
12-26-2004, 09:50 PM
Grenades are cool. Pipebombs are more realistic for civilians to use though, since they're easier to make.

Knifes
12-26-2004, 09:53 PM
So....... What would you use it for?

If you mean "it" as in pistols and handguns... its main use is for close/medium range assault. In addition, it's also better concealment... but uhh... isn't that basic knowledge?

Yeah!! Good job HereAtThere, 9mm all the way :D

hitokiri battousai
12-26-2004, 10:43 PM
I think that whether something is "mastered" or not depends on yourself. If you think that you've done everything that you could do to improve your skills on it, then I think it can be considered mastered.
That is how I approach this situation.

Thats a good point, I never thought of that before. This is why I like HF, ya learn something new with every thread lol.

Frosty
12-26-2004, 10:47 PM
"Those who live by the sword die by those who don't." - Unknown.

Funny quote. Still, it's true that you usually win with a gun while only going melee for the uh... satisfaction. My weapon of choice will be the cestus. No, it's not a fictional weapon that you find in games like Diablo II, it's actually part of ancient Greek and Roman boxing. Couldn't find a real picture, so I had to settle with illustrations from various sites.

http://www.klitschko.com/en/ist.html
http://www.koboxing.co.uk/index.php?lid=&sid=&page=3
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/OC.HTM

doctor//GENETIC
12-26-2004, 11:00 PM
If you mean "it" as in pistols and handguns... its main use is for close/medium range assault. In addition, it's also better concealment... but uhh... isn't that basic knowledge?

Yeah!! Good job HereAtThere, 9mm all the way :D I mean, why do you want to buy guns? Why spend $800+ on that thing. Even if it's legal in my country I wouldnt know what to do, shoot my brother? ;)
If it's for self defence why not buy dirt cheap ones :p

And which 9mm? If I am not mistaken most handguns are 9mm?

krotch
12-26-2004, 11:32 PM
I want a P90 for deer hunting and the Five-seveN for fishing.

NightviSion
12-26-2004, 11:45 PM
I want this one :D
ACCUKAK SYSTEMS OMNIKILL MULTI-DELIVERY RIFLE
http://www.villainsupply.com/graphics/product/smallarms7.jpg

Why choose between a pulse rifle, a laser rifle, a flame-thrower, a freeze ray, a rail gun, a particle beam rifle, and net gun when you can HAVE THEM ALL in one combined superweapon? Accukak Systems

doctor//GENETIC
12-26-2004, 11:46 PM
Sounds fake :p

BTW, NightVision, what's Momohime comic's about? Is that hentai manga magazine?

NightviSion
12-26-2004, 11:54 PM
Monohime magazines are definitely hentai manga magazines, I already provided some links......you lazy :p
I highly recommend it, so grab them while they last :D

doctor//GENETIC
12-27-2004, 12:01 AM
I did follow link, just dont understand what is being said :p

Lisa Hayes
12-27-2004, 12:10 AM
an HK Universal Service Pistol
http://remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/usp/45/usp45.gif

http://remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/usp/45/usp45.htm
this will do nicely for defensive purposes...

don't know much about guns for that matter...

Logitechie
12-27-2004, 12:16 AM
USP stands for universal self loading pistol.

mahouneko
12-27-2004, 12:23 AM
The H&K USP is a very good pistol. My personal preference would be the Walther P99. I like the grip and it's small, accurate, and strong enough to knock people out with one shot.

Shybal Noom
12-27-2004, 12:44 AM
*puff* seems everyone wants a gun these days. guns are so loud and crude. you should go back to the way of the sword. The samurai spirit lives on... then again, thee samurai spirit can just live on in guns too. but if i really had to choose a gun... M-1911
want a pic, search on google. its not hard to find.

KrazzyKat
12-27-2004, 12:51 AM
a katana is the weapon for me

krotch
12-27-2004, 01:26 AM
Well you can always get a ballistic knife. Nothing like stabbing a person, then firing some .22s into them.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/grad_rs1.html

Logitechie
12-27-2004, 01:33 AM
http://www.impactguns.com/store/mac10_9mm.html
I want a Mac10.

cyblaster
12-27-2004, 01:36 AM
Any type of long swords would do for me. I don't care if it's the katana or the medieval kinds.

doctor//GENETIC
12-27-2004, 01:44 AM
'Weapon of Choice', reminds me of fatboy slim :p

kenshinchong
12-27-2004, 01:53 AM
I'd take the Mauser. I heard it could fire through 2 elephants put side by side! If that's too much recoil for me to handle, I'l take a USP.

krotch
12-27-2004, 02:44 AM
Fatboy Slim is where I got the title.

Raven18940
12-27-2004, 07:54 AM
I'd take the Mauser. I heard it could fire through 2 elephants put side by side! If that's too much recoil for me to handle, I'l take a USP.
Mauser is company, there are many mausers.

guns are so loud and crude
loud yes, crude maybe if you call being able to put a large hole in your opponent with them getting near you then maybe they are crude. Swords are a techinque thing, guns are all about speed. How fast you can bring a gun to bear, how fast you can aim and how fast can you repeat. A lot of sword people seem to think guns are "too easy." Try it, it's hard as balls. ;)

nick64
12-27-2004, 08:44 AM
A Bo staff, elbow blades/tonfas or dual stick style.

:D

S&T Kawaii Love
12-27-2004, 11:05 AM
Karate and ninjitsu, would use a ninja sword all the way. :rolleyes:. To protect myself from bullets from an automatic gun i would pantser myself, such as arm and leg pantser. To outstand automatic weapon aim i would train my body for speed, strength, vision etc. ^^

Excellen
12-27-2004, 11:23 AM
All you guy think about is getting up close and personal. For me, i`d rather at a distance so wont get all the blood on me.

http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/M40A3.jpg
m40a3

krotch
12-27-2004, 11:36 AM
Maybe I should get an AR-15. I still have yet to make marksman.

Raven18940
12-27-2004, 11:48 AM
An AR is never a bad idea :)

takahira
12-27-2004, 12:11 PM
definitely the Sword of the Daywalker from Blade.... hahahaha... but yea, I will settle for a H&K Mk23 with the built in laser sight and silencer.... the feel of a .45 is no match with other caliber of ammo...

krotch
12-27-2004, 12:20 PM
I wish I would have went with a Glock .45 as opposed to the S&W .40

Kalutika
12-27-2004, 12:24 PM
The Masamune (its real so :P) or a huge F***ing war mech mwhahahaa

Kitee
12-27-2004, 01:00 PM
All you guy think about is getting up close and personal. For me, i`d rather at a distance so wont get all the blood on me.

http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/M40A3.jpg
m40a3
Yes.
Sniper Rifles are the best. Everyone becomes your prey instantly. :D :D

chaos99
12-27-2004, 01:46 PM
which is d best weapon.......it must b $$$$$$$$$$ (u've guess it!)

nick64
12-27-2004, 01:49 PM
All you guy think about is getting up close and personal. For me, i`d rather at a distance so wont get all the blood on me.

http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/M40A3.jpg
m40a3

Boo! a camper, i hate them so much

j/k :D

krotch
12-27-2004, 02:08 PM
Why not take out ppl who sit inside tanks instead?

http://www.barrettrifles.com/military/images/m107b.jpg

DrWise
12-27-2004, 02:16 PM
Hey krotch, since you are in the army and are a weapon maniac, tell me, what is the max distance the best rifle in the world can reach accuratly. :confused:

krotch
12-27-2004, 03:13 PM
I'm in the AF. We barely even have snipers. Course I know the max distance you can fire accurately is over 1,800 yards. It all depends on the shooter. Most can accurately fire from 1,000 yards to 1,500, while experts can go up to 2,000 yards.

When firing at such a long distance, wind, angle, bullet drop, leading, etc have to be calculated. My guess, only a handful of ppl could actually fire from 2,000 yards and that's to hit still objects. I couldn't imagine the lead required to actually hit a moving object.

Only the .50 cal is able to reach such distances. It's possible to modify .30 cal rounds to fire from a .50 cal rifle

Kitee
12-27-2004, 05:03 PM
I'm in the AF. We barely even have snipers. Course I know the max distance you can fire accurately is over 1,800 yards. It all depends on the shooter. Most can accurately fire from 1,000 yards to 1,500, while experts can go up to 2,000 yards.

When firing at such a long distance, wind, angle, bullet drop, leading, etc have to be calculated. My guess, only a handful of ppl could actually fire from 2,000 yards and that's to hit still objects. I couldn't imagine the lead required to actually hit a moving object.

Only the .50 cal is able to reach such distances. It's possible to modify .30 cal rounds to fire from a .50 cal rifle
How far is 2000 yards actually?
Is it the length of 2 soccer fields?

DrWise
12-27-2004, 05:11 PM
1m = 1.093613 yard, so 2000 yard is nearly 2km. If you still need reference : 5 times the length of a soccer field.
Well, i can imagine sniping at 2km !!! :eek:

Knifes
12-27-2004, 05:15 PM
How far is 2000 yards actually?
Is it the length of 2 soccer fields?

2000 yards = 6000 feet
2000 yards = 1828.8 meters
2000 yards = 1.8288 kilometers
2000 yards = 1.136 miles
2000 yards = 72000 inches
2000 yards = 1828800 milimeters
2000 yards = 0.987 nautical miles

EDIT: how about parsecs... 2000 yards = about 5.926e-14
Lightyears? 2000 yards = about 1.933e-13
furlongs? 2000 yards = 9.0909 :D :D
International soccer field? about 18.288 fields length-wise

Kitee
12-27-2004, 05:39 PM
ooooo..
a soccer field is close to 100meters.
so 18 soccer fields is reasonable.
Just being able to snipe 2 soccer fields is already a miracle for me. :D :D

Shragei
12-27-2004, 05:48 PM
The amazing part is the target is alittle bigger than a yard in hight and width

able254
12-27-2004, 07:18 PM
M1a Scout (http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-rifles-scout.shtml)

M14 for the win. .30 cal rifle Good for everything.

krotch
12-27-2004, 07:24 PM
A .30 cal rifle is the reasonable rifle. It's what most snipers in the military and law enforcement would use. The use of a .50 cal is out there. It'd be tough for a sniper to actually find a suitable location to actually fire from a mile out.

I'd still want one though.

Kongming
12-27-2004, 07:55 PM
Can anybody help me identify this weapon I have in my closet. I thought this may be the ideal crowd to ask this question.
All I know is it was a rice farming tool.

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9351/dsc007485tl.th.jpg (http://img95.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img95&image=dsc007485tl.jpg&bgc=000000&fgc=770011&bor=00FF00)

krotch
12-27-2004, 08:10 PM
I know what that is. It's called a "I got shot by someone when I fought with this thing." (aka kwan do)

Frosty
12-27-2004, 08:20 PM
All I know is it was a rice farming tool.

Assuming you're not referring to the other two items, where did you get the idea that it's a rice farming tool? :confused: It's called a Kwan Dao. Here's another pic. (http://www.martialartsmart.net/45-81wu.html) And read about its history here. (http://www.quandoman.com/kwandao.htm)

Adust Wanderer
12-27-2004, 08:23 PM
Looks like it can do wide area damage

mahouneko
12-27-2004, 08:24 PM
They call it the Guan (Kwan) Dao in reverence to its most famous wielder, Guan Yun-chang. Think Romance of the Three Kingdoms, the big guy in the green outfit with the long flowing beard riding a red horse.

Its primary use has been to attack the opposing cavalry's horse but Guan Yu made it infamous by slaying hordes of people with it.

Kongming
12-27-2004, 08:29 PM
Ahh the great war god Guan Yu styled Yunchang. Vanguard general of the Shu forces during the Three Kingdoms period. Thats what I thought. Thanks alot for the help.

doctor//GENETIC
12-27-2004, 09:40 PM
Do ppl still use flamethrower nowadays? :D

krotch
12-28-2004, 05:46 AM
Well flamethrowers are probably still used to clear sections of jungle.

S&T Kawaii Love
12-28-2004, 06:58 AM
Well if it had to be a weapon i heard the MP5 is one of the best weapons ever.. It has been used by all great military


http://www.combat2000shop.com/combat2000/airgun/electronic_gun/modify/cqb_guns/image/report_title.jpg
http://www.combat2000shop.com/combat2000/airgun/electronic_gun/modify/cqb_guns/image/mp5.jpg
This is more like it :)

BOiNG!
12-28-2004, 07:30 AM
MP5 is mainly used in urban close to medium range combat enviroment. The one pictured above is one of the many variations of this MP5. MP5 is a felxible & robust weapon, thus it was used by other forces (such as SWAT). AFAIK, there's no perfect weapon, all weapons have their pros & cons.

krotch
12-28-2004, 08:58 AM
The MP5 and UMP are weapons that are mainly used by SWAT teams and Anti-terrorist teams cause they as small. It makes it easier to maneuver in CQB environments.

The US military more than likely has it, but your regular infantry will be using the M4/M16. Special Forces more than likely uses it.

SaintXaero
12-28-2004, 09:04 AM
being one of the few hispanics around and loving to perpetuate stereotypes i'd use my keys. easiest to carry and cut up nice:)

mahouneko
12-28-2004, 09:19 AM
The H&K MP5 was designed to be a small caliber SMG with the idea of minimum damage to infrastructures. As such, it cannot penetrate walls and is only effective against meaty fleshy objects. The designers also created the MP5 with the idea of accuracy in mind. As such, it is accurate second only to the P90 which fires 10 mm rounds.

Umm, the Special Forces use a whole variety of weapons, depending on the mission parameters and types of support available. Most regular troopers regardless of service use the M4. I think the M16 has been retired from service.

This is off-topic but I have to say this:
Guan Yu is my favorite of all the warriors in the Three Kingdoms. The Shu Kingdom especially is powerful in that the generals only need to mention their names and the opposing army will run away. Speaking of which, I think I need to finish Dynasty Warriors 4... dear god I hate English Dubs...

Arleonenis
12-28-2004, 10:30 AM
for me p99 (i have only air gun replica, normal weapons are very difficult to obtain in my country... highly illegal) and nice sword in other hand, preferably europ medieval style, 1 handed... i like my glock knife too:) yep im psycho as we all:)

krotch
12-28-2004, 10:33 AM
Uh...the P90 fires 5.7 x 28 mm rounds. A smaller bullet than the MP5. Now the casing is larger. MP5 fires 9 mm rounds. UMP fires .45 cal. Also the military has not retired the M16A2. IT's still in wide use. Shoot, most of the Marines and Army troops are complaining about the gun. They say it's too large to clear a building, so most of them pull out their trusty M9 handgun.

The AF uses the M16A2 also. I have to qualify on the stupid thing every two years. I love shooting guns, but that gun is a piece of crap. I'll normally work in a building demolishing classified information, if we were getting attacked. I'd rather have a nice SMG, not a rifle.

mahouneko
12-28-2004, 11:19 PM
Hmm, I see. Which SMG uses 10 mm rounds then?

krotch
12-28-2004, 11:48 PM
There are variants of the MP5 and UMP that's able to use a .40cal/10mm round. Course most ppl just go for the standard 9mm MP5 and 45 cal UMP.

mahouneko
12-28-2004, 11:50 PM
Hmm, the current Counter-Terrorist standard is an SMG that uses 10 mm rounds. I don't remember which weapon it was because I've only read it once in Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six.

krotch
12-29-2004, 12:05 AM
Well that's a book and there's no such thing as a global counter-terrorist force (at least to the public's knowledge). More than likely you're just thinking of a 10mm MP5 of UMP.

mahouneko
12-29-2004, 01:46 AM
I'm pretty sure it's not an MP5 nor an UMP. There may not be an international counter-terrorist force, but at least the weapons described are based on real and existing weapons, minus the mutation of the Ebola virus as a biological weapon. Actually, I think the CDC does experiment on the Ebola virus. We have nukes, we have chemical weapons, and we most certainly have biological agents. Ah... what a hypocrisy our Representative Republic is.

krotch
12-29-2004, 02:01 AM
Ya. Oddly enough, I received a small pox vaccination to ward off...well...small pox. Apparently it was wiped off the planet, minus the CDC in the US and a similiar organization in Russia. Course with the corruption of Russia, the small pox virus has possibly reach terrorists hands and such.

Damn biological weapons.

Anyways, was looking up some guns. The 10mm version of the MP5 is called an MP10.

mahouneko
12-29-2004, 02:40 AM
That's just being irrationally concerned.

Excellen
12-29-2004, 02:52 AM
Why not take out ppl who sit inside tanks instead?

http://www.barrettrifles.com/military/images/m107b.jpg
Why not take out people inside underground bunkers instead? All you need is to learn how to crack into Top Security Databases, takeover the command key and Fire at will.

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/propul/images/m_keasat.jpg

*A bit off topic?

mahouneko
12-29-2004, 06:44 AM
Oooh, so it IS a variation of the MP5. Thanks Krotch!

Apoc
12-29-2004, 07:50 AM
Then you will die first :p (kinda remind me of an episode of FMP fumoffu)...

The one where Sagara was trying to kick the fighting club out of the dojo?

Anyway, my favourite weapon must be the FN F2000
http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/tw_f2000.htm
And the Barret 82A1
http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles/rifles_82A1.htm

ebp2k2
12-29-2004, 08:00 AM
I was watching a documentary on cbc/bbc about (i believe) kazahstan... and they showed an ex-russian government lab that stores virus and bio hazards in household refridgerators with simple locks on them.

and the lab had no guards and a small fence around the complex.

scary..

back to the topic, I never understood the fascination some people have with firearms... nonetheless, p90 looks cool...


Ya. Oddly enough, I received a small pox vaccination to ward off...well...small pox. Apparently it was wiped off the planet, minus the CDC in the US and a similiar organization in Russia. Course with the corruption of Russia, the small pox virus has possibly reach terrorists hands and such.

Damn biological weapons.

Anyways, was looking up some guns. The 10mm version of the MP5 is called an MP10.

Metal Soldier
12-29-2004, 09:25 AM
I got to go with the Thompson 1928 submachine gun (http://www.auto-ordnance.com/ao_1928_f.html). Some day it shall be mine. I've always been a fan of larger pistols as well, like the Colt .45 and Desert Eagle's .50. I have a S&W 30-06 that I used for hunting, very nice and very pretty rifle.

mahouneko
12-29-2004, 04:13 PM
Oooooh, the Tommy Gun! I hear that it's a fun weapon. Ever since the Depression, the govt. forbade sales of that weapon but allowed the Army to have stocks of them. Did they ever use the Tommy Gun in WWII? I don't recall reading about it ever having been used in WWII.

BOiNG!
12-29-2004, 04:47 PM
They used a slightly modified Thompson in WWII, instead of a 50+ round drum-fed ammo clip, they use 30 round ammo clips (sticks, like modern clips). And from what I know, it's body is a little lighter too compared to the original drum-type Thompson. Other than that, it's just the same old gun.

Kerii
12-29-2004, 05:10 PM
Oooooh, the Tommy Gun! I hear that it's a fun weapon. Ever since the Depression, the govt. forbade sales of that weapon but allowed the Army to have stocks of them. Did they ever use the Tommy Gun in WWII? I don't recall reading about it ever having been used in WWII.As the saying goes: "A picture's worth a thousand words." :p
http://img156.exs.cx/img156/2786/tommy0027fn.jpg

hitokiri battousai
12-29-2004, 06:00 PM
As the saying goes: "A picture's worth a thousand words." :p
http://img156.exs.cx/img156/2786/tommy0027fn.jpg

Wheres the Tommy Gun? Unless its the same thing as a Thompson SMG, they both do fire a 45. cal i think. So are they considered the same? Im confused.

krotch
12-29-2004, 06:06 PM
It's the same gun. The name Thompson is just shortened to Tommy. Thus...Tommy Gun.

hitokiri battousai
12-29-2004, 06:12 PM
It's the same gun. The name Thompson is just shortened to Tommy. Thus...Tommy Gun.


ahhhhh, well thank you. Now I must pull the stupidity bug attached to my head off :p

krotch
12-29-2004, 06:27 PM
You always learn new things. I found out the 10mm version of an MP5 is called an MP10.

Mai Tokiha
12-29-2004, 06:28 PM
For pistols, the best is a Desert Eagel with walnut wood grip. Doesn't get better than that :)
For rifles, nothing beats this baby:
Barrett 82A1 50BMG Semi Auto Rifle (http://www.impactguns.com/store/barrett_m82a1.html)

krotch
12-29-2004, 06:38 PM
The site has a Navy version of the .50 cal rifle too. I think it looks a whole lot better. That bullpup design is just kickass.

Edit: Man I hope the P90 comes with a manual, cause I sure as fizuck don't know how to take apart the weapon and clean it. I think I'll attempt to find a book on the weapon. I just wish we could get the SS190 round, but all that's available SB192 (hollow point) round.

mahouneko
12-30-2004, 04:30 AM
Kerii:
Thanks for the picture!

Hmm, I guess they used the Tommy gun for CQC then?

Krotch:
The P90's barrel is the entire length of the gun, including the stock. I think you need to remove the top latch first, then the barrel and then the gun itself.

prosin
12-30-2004, 04:41 AM
My fav is my AR-15 bushmaster and my cusans 50.cal single shot rifle fireing armor pirsing rounds I shot it it to 1 1/2 inch thick steal plate

Raven18940
12-30-2004, 04:46 AM
For pistols, the best is a Desert Eagel with walnut wood grip. Doesn't get better than that :)[/url]
Ever heard of a 500 Magnum? ;)

BOiNG!
12-30-2004, 04:52 AM
Hmm, I guess they used the Tommy gun for CQC then?
I don't think that the modern CQC concept ever came into consideration during WWII. For close combat, they usually whipped out the Colt1911 handguns, but they usually clear out a room with a grenade or flamethrower. But even in close quarters, they still used their M1 Garand rifles & Tommys, or anything goes. So yeah, they sort of use them in close combat too.

krotch
12-30-2004, 01:17 PM
Kerii:
Thanks for the picture!

Hmm, I guess they used the Tommy gun for CQC then?

Krotch:
The P90's barrel is the entire length of the gun, including the stock. I think you need to remove the top latch first, then the barrel and then the gun itself.

The civilian one will have a longer barrel. I've been reading up on the gun and it's got an odd hammer mechanism. At least the description of it seemed all kinds of odd.

BookMaker
12-30-2004, 01:44 PM
A knights sword for close by carnage and for shooting an uzi.

Warri0n
12-30-2004, 01:59 PM
KATANA ALL THE WAY... Sweetest weapon ever!!!!

CyberDyne3
12-30-2004, 02:12 PM
i personaly like bladed and blunt weapons, holy water sprinklers are bad ass, but i want the katana im gonna make when i start forging my own blades. im gonna spend 3 years folding the steel. by the time im done it will probably have around 5 million layers of steel. as for guns... an AR50 or any other 50 cal BMG sniper rifle. you know, the ones that can go through about 3 feet of concrete

Kerii
12-30-2004, 03:37 PM
Well, this post is going to take a while. :p :D

General purpose: German Walther PPK (with silencer)
http://img152.exs.cx/img152/4346/ppk0024cv.jpg
Damn that thing's a beauty. :D

Backup general purpose: Russian Stechkin APS
http://img152.exs.cx/img152/8332/stechkin9so.jpg
The full auto and holster/buttstock are really nice. :p :D

Gotta have an SMG right?: Belgian FN P90 gets my vote. :p :D
http://img152.exs.cx/img152/6710/415fuji0032tn.jpg

And of course... everyone has to have a melee weapon, for me: the Japanese Zatoichi
http://img75.exs.cx/img75/3120/2114gt0jm.jpg
The walking stick..... OF DOOM!!! :D

Kitee
12-30-2004, 04:49 PM
Well, this post is going to take a while. :p :D

General purpose: German Walther PPK (with silencer)

Damn that thing's a beauty. :D

Backup general purpose: Russian Stechkin APS

The full auto and holster/buttstock are really nice. :p :D

Gotta have an SMG right?: Belgian FN P90 gets my vote. :p :D

And of course... everyone has to have a melee weapon, for me: the Japanese Zatoichi

The walking stick..... OF DOOM!!! :D
That's a good combo Kerii.:D
But I think that only the German Walther PPK and the Japanese Zatoichi are needed.
If having a SMG wrapped around your back, you wouldn't be able to move as freely as you want when it comes to close combat where you would want to be as fast as possible. :) :)

krotch
12-30-2004, 04:59 PM
The SMG is a CQB weapon. It provides sights for easy acquisition of targets in close quarters.

What annoys me is the fact that CS:S makes the P90 so inaccurate. At 200m a person can spray all 50 rounds in a tight 9.4 inch circle.

Kerii
12-30-2004, 06:20 PM
That's a good combo Kerii.:D
But I think that only the German Walther PPK and the Japanese Zatoichi are needed.
If having a SMG wrapped around your back, you wouldn't be able to move as freely as you want when it comes to close combat where you would want to be as fast as possible. :) :)Well yes, of course. :D

They are simply candidates for a potential loadout.
If I had a choice, I'd probably go with just the PPK and Zatoichi as well. :D

The Stechkin APS and FN P90 would probably be good enough each on their own. :D
The SMG is a CQB weapon. It provides sights for easy acquisition of targets in close quarters.

What annoys me is the fact that CS:S makes the P90 so inaccurate. At 200m a person can spray all 50 rounds in a tight 9.4 inch circle.Well... CamperStrike never was about realism was it? :p

krotch
12-30-2004, 06:37 PM
CS:S isn't all that realistic, but I still think it's a fun game. Course sniping in the game is pretty retarded in my book. I can do it with ease, but the issue is, why are they using those sniper rifles in maps like that to begin with.

Shybal Noom
12-30-2004, 06:41 PM
CS is fun... for awhile. its gets boring fast. with all the hackers and such. but its fun...i think

Kerii
12-30-2004, 06:41 PM
Frankly I find CS as about as fun as Deer Hunter.

There's so much luck involved it's not even funny.
90% of the time I'm killed it's because I enter an area, check my back, turn back foward, and the next thing I know I'm on my stomach with a hole in the back of my head.

Doesn't matter how fast your reactions are, how good your aim is, if someone of equal or even lesser skill gets half a second lead on you, you're about as good as dead 80% of the time.

Now Unreal Tournament or Tribes, those are fun games.
And with weapons that each were given some THOUGHT before being implemented into the game. :p

Playing insta-gib on UT really helps with your normal ASMD shock combo skills in regular games. :p :D

BakaNeko
12-30-2004, 06:50 PM
Damn, its a tie between a Spoon or SUV. I can't just pick one! ;)

Kerii
12-30-2004, 06:53 PM
Damn, its a tie between a Spoon or SUV. I can't just pick one! ;)Why not have the best of both worlds? :p

Drill a couple slots on the SUV's bumper and then weld some spoons into the slots. :p :D

krotch
12-30-2004, 06:54 PM
Well, that's just cause you play with some crappy teams. The server I play on, for the most part, it's all team work. Ppl roll forward and those at the end check our backs.

I also wouldn't say more thought was taking into the weapons on those games. They can do whatever they feel like, since well, the weapons aren't real. It's hard to base weapons on other guns and expect them to be just like the real thing. Like WWII games. There's no realistic factor in there with the weapons, cause I have yet to play any WWII games where the gun jams on me and many WWII guns were well known for jamming all the time.

I can't find UT or Tribes all that much fun. The ultra fast paced games outlived itself for me. I quit playing Q3 and UT back in 2001. Same game over and over again and well, with CS/CS:S, I haven't played it all that much, so it's new to me.

Kerii
12-30-2004, 06:55 PM
Teams? What teams? I just play on random servers because I don't have the time or the drive to dedicate myself to a clan. :p :D

If the game's new to you, then I guess I can understand. Don't expect the "fun" to last long though. :p

Edit: The adforementioned jamming and such:
That adds nothing to the gameplay except frustration though. Ultimately: Luck.
Just like CS's reloading and horrid game engine *cough* hit detection. :p

Now don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against realism, but when they try to implement it, they shouldn't implement some things, while leaving out others.

I find it rather absurd that simply holstering your sidearm and drawing your knife would allow you to run faster.

I'd rather like it if someone made a game that implemented as much realism as they could. :p
Reloading, realistic drawing of weapons, MAGAZINES & CLIPS, weight & speed factors, fatigue, injuries, etc.

krotch
12-30-2004, 07:25 PM
I'm not in any type of clan. We just build teamwork during gameplay. Maybe the ppl here are just a little bit more teamworkish. I know the Koreans do things that we wouldn't.

American men are macho. We can't hold hands, hug each other, or watch chick flicks. Korean men on the other hand do do that.

As for holstering a weapon, it can allow you to run faster. Put a gun into your hands and constantly aim it while running. It feels awkward and you get no arm swing. You naturally will run slower. Throw a knife in one hand and then run. One arm swings and you end up running a little faster.

As for games that implement realism. Joint Ops does a pretty good job, minus the fatigue and injuries. If you're a heavy gunner, you will run slower than a medic or a sniper. You can be a faster heavy gunner if you get rid of your side arm, grenades, and most of your ammo.

Which kind of reminds me. Wonder why no one's chosen any machine guns. I myself like the SAW.

doctor//GENETIC
12-30-2004, 07:27 PM
wait for DOD:Source LOL :D

Logitechie
12-30-2004, 07:28 PM
Lots of US servers are more DM type. Its hard to use any real teamwork with people who are only concerned about their score.

TheCommunist
12-30-2004, 08:38 PM
Yes back to weapons
Ump because .45 ACPs can put sum serious dents in your head.
Colt SA Army cause Ocelot says so, Nuff said.
And a Spoon because its a weapon of mass desruction.

TheCommunist
12-30-2004, 08:40 PM
Well krotch i do remember Firearms the grenade launcher can shoot duds sumtimes does that count?

hitokiri battousai
12-30-2004, 10:32 PM
And a Spoon because its a weapon of mass desruction.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO not the dreaded spoon of destruction. I bet we must have found tons of those in iIraq to start this masscarade the US has going there... :(

krotch
12-30-2004, 10:43 PM
Well krotch i do remember Firearms the grenade launcher can shoot duds sumtimes does that count?

It's very possible to fire duds. Grenades fired out of an M203 launcher require 3 rotations to activate. If they don't, they don't explode. Course hit a person with it before it's 3 rotations, it's still hurt, just not kill.

Interesting bit of information I learned from a Security Forces friend.

ChibiFirli
12-30-2004, 11:08 PM
hah, nobody can stop the belgian Coastal Tramway
*extraterrestrial intelligence versus the belgian Coastal Tramway 0-1*

TheCommunist
01-01-2005, 11:32 PM
I have a hot passion for the M16A2 just plain no attachments I kinda like it
plain. No bayonet, or a scope, or M203 just plain.
I'd make love to it. Any other lovers of the M16A2?

krotch
01-01-2005, 11:53 PM
I've fired the thing on multiple occassion. Still have yet to make marksman. It's an alright weapon, but not my taste. Now the M4. Same power, shorter size. Course worse accurancy.

TheCommunist
01-02-2005, 12:03 AM
Im new in this site not very sure who every one is but
Mr. Krotch u have my total respect unless of course u
Counter strike is a very realistic game.

krotch
01-02-2005, 12:20 AM
I'm not sure what that last part of the sentence was suppose to mean. I'm guessing you were trying to say something along the lines of "unless to you Counterstrike is a realistic game" or something like that.

I'm in the military and I have to qualify on the M16A2 every 2 years. Use to be every year, but I'm not longer a Security Forces augmentee.

As for CS, it's semi-realistic, but the gun firing is way off. Also some of it isn't even right at all. Like the M4 on there is backwards.

Logitechie
01-02-2005, 12:29 AM
CS is not realistic...

krotch
01-02-2005, 12:36 AM
There are some realistic aspects in the game, but it's not all realistic. No game is.

starcaptor
01-02-2005, 12:36 AM
My weapon of choice...an SUV carrying 6 kids to soccer practice taking turns at 65 mph :D

One of the deadliest civilian weapons today...

Logitechie
01-02-2005, 12:37 AM
#157 Rifk!!!!

TheCommunist
01-02-2005, 12:44 AM
Thank you CS is not realistic just sum what
addictive.
Ppl in the military has always had my respect.

Weaponary which requires a crew like artillary or a MG is so kool.

Why there is no game with weapon jam or failure?
I think maybe cause a weapon should be cleaned and taken care of
after use or after all the fighting has been done, Correct?
And ppl play games when there is action not when ur in the barracks
and ppl get annoyed these days about things like weapon jam. I would like to
weapon jam though in a game.

krotch
01-02-2005, 12:52 AM
Well normally after launching 100 rounds out of a gun, the likeliness of a jam increases a lot. Other times, it could simply be a faulty round that jams. I've only had a jam with a 9mm handgun. We took it out shooting on 3 different occassions and never cleaned the weapon.

Then you simply have weapons that like to jam. The L85A2 (Enfield) is one of those troublesome weapons. Not as much as the first variant though.

Logitechie
01-02-2005, 01:39 AM
#160- America's Army has gun jam's.

krotch
01-02-2005, 01:50 AM
I haven't tried out that game yet. I mean, it's an advertisement tool made by the US Army. I'll have to download it now.

TheCommunist
01-02-2005, 04:57 PM
Hmmm...
Where can i acquire the full game?

krotch
01-02-2005, 05:18 PM
www.americasarmy.com

They'll have links for it. The game is free. It was made by the US Army. So far, I've only played one level of the training. Their qualifications for the M16A2 is different from the US Airforce, but it's not like that's surprising. The AF does work a bit different, even though we spawned from the Army.

Logitechie
01-02-2005, 05:25 PM
Krotch when you play it more your going to have to tell us just how realistic the rest of the game is.

SolidSnake
01-02-2005, 05:29 PM
I enjoy my M-4 Carbines a great deal one of which is a civilian Bushmaster the other a law enforcement model with EOTech HOLOgraphic sight.
My Ruger mini 14 rifle and Soviet made SKS are enjoyable as well. For shotguns I enjoy firing my Benelli Nova. And for Pistols I love taking my USP 45 to the range. Sig pistols are pretty good but I'm not a fan of Glock. I would love to get my hands on a G36 Compact, and a 1911 with Damascus slid

psiber5
01-02-2005, 05:32 PM
I'd be happy with a traditional hunter bow, if I can draw it. ~_~

Chi2814
01-02-2005, 05:41 PM
Weapon of choice?

Nuclear Missiles :)

Logitechie
01-02-2005, 05:44 PM
So far I'm the only one who said grenades. Whats wrong with grenades? They're easy to carry, lightweight, have no recoil, and can kill lots of people at once instantly.

krotch
01-02-2005, 05:50 PM
Krotch when you play it more your going to have to tell us just how realistic the rest of the game is.

Well right now, the only unrealistic thing I see about the gun is aiming in zoomed mode. You can hear the person's breathing. No biggy, course, the gun only sways up and down, not side to side also.

I think Splinter Cell's aiming is more realistic than any other game I've played so far. Granted, the other aspects of the game aren't.

Aside from that, I don't know how the Army trains on their weapons. The AF goes to the shooting range. 40 practice shots, then 40 qualifying shots. 35 hits to make marksman. We don't fire at moving targets, targets that pop up, etc. We simply throw up our target and fire at it. After it's all done, we clean our weapon and off we go to Burger King, home, or whatever.

Chi2814
01-02-2005, 05:50 PM
Grenades are generall not very accurate, and people can throw them back as well.. :(

Logitechie
01-02-2005, 05:51 PM
Not if you cook 'em first. :p

krotch
01-02-2005, 05:54 PM
Well during Vietnam, soldiers would pull the pin and hold onto the grenade for a few seconds before actually throwing it. Kept anyone from tossing it back.

Then you have grenades you can fire from M203s and so on. I'd like to see someone catch that and throw it back.

You also have rocket propelled grenades. Nothing like taking out choppers with them.

Maria Renard
01-03-2005, 08:10 AM
how about a really big hammer? :D:D:D

kylixjazz
01-03-2005, 12:49 PM
The Holy Handgenade of Antioch, obviously.
Particularly effective against renegade killer rabbits.


LAUNCELOT: We have the Holy Hand Grenade.
ARTHUR: Yes, of course! The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch! 'Tis
one of the sacred relics Brother Maynard carries with him! Brother
Maynard! Bring up the Holy Hand Grenade!
[singing]
How does it, uh... how does it work?
???: I know not, my liege.
ARTHUR: Consult the Book of Armaments!
MAYNARD: Armaments, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty-One.
BROTHER: "And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high,
saying, 'Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou
mayest blow thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord
did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and
carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
fruit bats, and large --"
MAYNARD: Skip a bit, Brother.
BROTHER: "And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out
the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.
Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the
counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either
count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is
right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be
reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards
thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.'"
MAYNARD: Amen.
ALL: Amen.
ARTHUR: Right! One... two... five!
???: Three, sir!
ARTHUR: Three!
[boom]

hitokiri battousai
01-03-2005, 01:09 PM
The Holy Handgenade of Antioch, obviously.
Particularly effective against renegade killer rabbits.


HAHAHAHAHAH the holy hang grenade i forgot about that one. But i stick with my first post here. Nothing beats a katana made by Masamune or Niji Kunitoshi. :D

kawaiiguy
01-03-2005, 04:03 PM
Well, I figured since my favorite weapon is become civilian legal, I want to know what weapon is your favorite. This has to be a real weapon and not something from an anime, movie, etc.

Damn. That rules out a gravity gun. Toilet kill anyone? :D

For melee, I'd love to be able to use fighting fans. Of course, that won't do much for longer range attacks, so... I'll want a Walther P99 in my back pocket. If that won't do and I need to clear out a room full of Deadites, I'll need a good ol' fashion boomstick strapped to my back.

Of course, for clearing out larger areas, such as towns and cities, a nuclear bomb wouldn't be such a bad thing to have...

But if that fails, I'll do some yelling. I can say some pretty insulting things :D

TheCommunist
01-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Grenades are the greatest!
Helped alot in trenchs and in urban warfare
Im sure not ever 1 has the instinct to throw a grenade back more likely run
America's Army is great thanx for the link!

Paranoia
01-04-2005, 03:37 AM
The anti-matter bomb should be able to do enough damage when technology comes that far.

But as for normal weapons, perhaps something like a Steyr Aug. And a Desert Eagle in the pocket.

kawaiiguy
01-04-2005, 09:00 AM
The Holy Handgenade of Antioch, obviously.
Particularly effective against renegade killer rabbits.

Mm... Holy Hand Grenade...

Fayt42
01-04-2005, 09:27 AM
....ummmm ummm maybe a katana or just a regular sharp small knife/dagger :) oh yea those would be great to torture my bro with.

soutaku
01-04-2005, 11:16 AM
Hmm. I think that I would like to have a Magnum, any magnum is good.
A combat knife if that's legal, for close combat.

scb
01-04-2005, 11:19 AM
Rapier & Dagger, very effective combination. But they sure took alot of training before i was able to use them well :cool:

Babel
01-04-2005, 11:25 AM
Has to be crap on a stick - the ultimate deterrent

incredibles
01-04-2005, 11:57 AM
i like a massshetie

TheCommunist
01-04-2005, 11:57 AM
Im tellin ya u need the SPOON!
The spoon owns all other weapons.
Watch as the razor dull edges cut away at ur enemies.
Cringe as the u scoop at him with fury.
Marvel as its easy to clean.

flz9636
01-04-2005, 12:13 PM
i chose bow over other weapon, although it couldn't compare to other deadly weapon but bow is nice, i like it flew and hit the target. also dont like closes combat a bow or a sniper would be good for me

Spring
01-04-2005, 12:59 PM
Anyone know any good First Person Shooting game where you can shoot Iraq terrorists? I wanna shoot some bloody terrorists =). I am a big fan of FPS shooting games. My favourite is Counterstrike offcourse. Logitechie nice pic =)

Mercia
01-04-2005, 01:14 PM
I'd prefer to have any simple dagger, a kitchen knife wouldn't be a bad choice at all though. I would say guns but after paintballing the amount I have you soon get a little too cocky when you're about to get shot...

kawaiiguy
01-04-2005, 03:11 PM
Im tellin ya u need the SPOON!
The spoon owns all other weapons.
Watch as the razor dull edges cut away at ur enemies.
Cringe as the u scoop at him with fury.
Marvel as its easy to clean.

"we need a battle cry"

"You mean like... 'not in the face! not in the face!'?"

"No. SPOOOOOOON!!!!!"

TheCommunist
01-04-2005, 08:26 PM
SPOOOOOOON!
Right your my friend used them Spoons.
Ive been trying America's Army its a pretty good FPS.
I wonder is there is more maps though.

SPOOOOOOON!

Fayt42
01-05-2005, 08:58 AM
Yay for spooooooons......... I think plastic forks are useful too or sporks:)

Maelstrom338
01-05-2005, 09:05 AM
I Don't Want No Teenage Queen
I Just Want My M-16

Maelstrom338
01-05-2005, 09:07 AM
Although i have been known to run to my other favorite...mmmmmmm AWP

TheCommunist
01-05-2005, 10:03 AM
PSG 1 is the greatest
All hail Heckler and Koch
All hail the Spoon too!

KaiZX
01-05-2005, 11:28 AM
SPAS12. For people who have played Kagetsu Tohya or know the story (it's the sequel/side story to Tsukihime), the gun holds special meaning.

Hint: Arcueid as the Nekomata (demon cat spirit) is fun :D

Chaotic Heavens
01-05-2005, 12:39 PM
I like the Beretta M1934 (http://www.wa-gunnet.co.jp/english/cool/wa-btans.html). Kirika uses it in NOIR. ;)

Also, I think the battle cry "SPOOOOOON" was taken by The Tick already. We might have trouble in court with them due to copyright infringements. ^^;;

xerosrph
01-05-2005, 03:10 PM
..yeap...agree about the

Ryan
01-06-2005, 05:10 PM
My number one favorite knife...

http://ryancorpse.mad-sky.com/Pics/balis.JPG

The Balisong!

TheCommunist
01-07-2005, 05:16 AM
WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET THE TICK TO JOIN THE COMMUNIST ARMY!
Hmmmm pistols i like the old Colt 1911. Also the Usp, and the VP70 are cool.

AnimeWerewolf
01-07-2005, 08:36 AM
My weapon of choice is the old but reliable AK-47 with the milled receiver !
pistol also old is the Tokarev 7.62x25mm or 9mm both with one gun !
last but not least a can of beans 1 spoon and someone
stupid enuff to pull my finger ...

Reisuosenin
01-07-2005, 11:06 AM
[QUOTE=S&T Kawaii Love]Well if it had to be a weapon i heard the MP5 is one of the best weapons ever.. It has been used by all great military
[QUOTE]

thats an mp5sdk(silenced)that u posted, I prefer the mp5a4 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/Rei-Mihoji/mp5female.jpg
and my favorite rifle the steyr aug http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/Rei-Mihoji/aug20b.gif

and my favorite big ass tree chopper http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/Rei-Mihoji/6_m134_movie.jpg

Kerii
01-07-2005, 11:17 AM
and my favorite big ass tree chopperYou realize you can't actually fire that unless it's hooked up to a helicopter or anchored to the ground right? :p :D

Try firing one of those things (provided you had a long enough power cord) with a backpack full of ammo and you might be lucky to go through all the ammo in 2 seconds without killing yourself. :p :D

If actually fired by hand, that thing will knock you on your back, and the ejecting shells will most likely give you a concussion if not just simply bash your face in. :D

krotch
01-10-2005, 07:04 PM
You worry too much. You've got to try it at least once. I'm sure you can take out a few ppl before you fall on your ass.

Raven18940
01-10-2005, 07:20 PM
I don't know about falling down, if it's heavy enough and you fire in bursts you might be able to do it. Oh who am I kidding, I had trouble with a bolt action .30 caliber. I could feel it in my teeth ever time I fired.

KaM
01-10-2005, 07:48 PM
Real men fight with their fists. :p
Hell yeah!!!! noobs use guns!!

KaM
01-10-2005, 07:59 PM
You'll be singing a different tune if you try and take on a "noob" with just your fists.

Actually no, you won't be singing anything at all, you wouldn't even be able to talk anymore. :p :D
Ill take him on....if he has JUST a gun....:D

*edit how the fook....... I quoted a post AFTER me....:/

Kerii
01-10-2005, 07:59 PM
Hell yeah!!!! noobs use guns!!You'll be singing a different tune if you try and take on a "noob" with just your fists.

Actually no, you won't be singing anything at all, you wouldn't even be able to talk anymore. :p :D

ranman1313
01-10-2005, 08:08 PM
Mine would be throwing knives. with its range and melee functions, very dangerous

soutaku
01-10-2005, 08:24 PM
Now that I've thought about it. I think that I will go with the combat knife for sure. I mean. So if you get shot it hurts but if you get stabbed and than rip half of your intestines out, that's more painful to the person that tried to attack me or something.

krotch
01-10-2005, 09:16 PM
Actually that's what hollow points are for. Leave a nice little hole up front, and a big hole in the back for the intestines to fall out. Well, at least what's left of the intestines after the bullet destroys them.

Cyrano
01-10-2005, 10:07 PM
I dunno. Does your fist count as a weapon? Does it count if you break somebody's ribs?

SKL2002
01-10-2005, 10:26 PM
Hey, its all about the Barret M82A1 Sniper Rifle, or more like a f**king Sniper Cannon (since it is design as a Anti-Material weapon, not Anti-Personnel). With a BMG .50 Cal ammunition, this weapon packs a powerful punch!!

http://lordnapalm2.free.fr/image/weapons/snipers/M82A1.jpg

things
01-10-2005, 10:35 PM
pistols, pistols, pistols! i always liked handguns better then others. nighthawks and sigs i like but i dont know crap about whats all good and such.

and ill go melee unarmed anyday.

Xebi
01-10-2005, 10:50 PM
Well as much as I like guns, they aren't really my favourites.

I like a katana, imperial version, around $500.
but I also wheeld some throwing knives.

But if I had to choose a gun I think a fully adjustable gun like the Wildey 45 W. Mag. would be the climax for me ^^

soutaku
01-10-2005, 11:48 PM
Well as much as I like guns, they aren't really my favourites.

I like a katana, imperial version, around $500.
but I also wheeld some throwing knives.

But if I had to choose a gun I think a fully adjustable gun like the Wildey 45 W. Mag. would be the climax for me ^^

Imperial katanas sounds interesting! Do you by chance have any pictures of the katana?

Makuro
01-10-2005, 11:53 PM
I'd definitely go with katana.

It's way above a regular old hand gun in style points and takes skill to wield properly.

In other words, its sexy. 'Nuff said.

honda82
01-11-2005, 06:03 AM
Wtf are you ppl talking about, "putting holes in people and stabbing them" "I would snipe so I don't get blood on me"
"ripping out intestines" :confused: :confused: :confused: Is this the twilight zone? Stick to your videogames...

Sorry, but in my opinion there is something really sad about being obsessed with guns.
I'm in the army myself and have fired my share of rounds, and there's nothing fun about guns imho. Just a stupid hunk of metal designed for one thing. Ending another human beings life...

Raven18940
01-11-2005, 06:20 AM
Wtf are you ppl talking about, "putting holes in people and stabbing them" "I would snipe so I don't get blood on me"
"ripping out intestines" :confused: :confused: :confused: Is this the twilight zone? Stick to your videogames...

Sorry, but in my opinion there is something really sad about being obsessed with guns.
I'm in the army myself and have fired my share of rounds, and there's nothing fun about guns imho. Just a stupid hunk of metal designed for one thing. Ending another human beings life...
Dude, calm down. This thread should be taken as "If you were an anime/video game hero, what would be your weapon of choice?" Don't over analyze the boredom of the people posting in this thread. Just a couple guys(and girls), being dumb, trying to amuse themselves.

I personally like guns and own a shotgun, but I don't hunt with it or anything like that. I do clay shooting and things of that sort. It's a fun test of skill, nothing more.

Maria Renard
01-11-2005, 07:10 AM
by looking again at this thread, I

AnimeWerewolf
01-11-2005, 04:49 PM
[QUOTE=Maria Renard]by looking again at this thread, I

TheException
01-11-2005, 05:12 PM
lol , it's not how fast you shot it's whether you hit anything that counts :D

does this have any sexual second meaning?....it sure sounds like stuff girls tell guys when they had bad....intercourse....lol

Shybal Noom
01-11-2005, 05:22 PM
ugh, havent seen this post inawhile. anyways, ugh you people and your fasination with guns and shooting guns. sure... its more praticial in this time and age, but think about the past, straight forward with formations, no guerilla warfare, no cheap stuff. just do with a sword and such.
maybe im just rambling, but, comon, isnt there anyone who prefers a sword over a gun?

Redsuns
01-11-2005, 05:27 PM
If I were to choose maybe just a scythe, a Magnum .357 or those ones which are currently tested by the U.S. Army

Unit1Evangelion
01-11-2005, 05:28 PM
All you guy think about is getting up close and personal. For me, i`d rather at a distance so wont get all the blood on me.

http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/M40A3.jpg
m40a3

good choice. i would choose this and dual compact 228 pistols. (lol don't know that much about guns but play cs way too much. ps i never camp :P)

Fillinthe_____
01-11-2005, 05:33 PM
A military rail gun capable of firing a slug 2.5km per sec, and accurate up to 370 miles.. of course that would be too big for a person to hold right now, so i would just shoot from a far.


edit . in my opinion, using a guns against swords is cheap, but on the other hand, using swords against barehand is cheap. think about it.

knets
01-11-2005, 05:52 PM
A few throwing knives would do fine... or then again, metallic edge-sharpened poker cards do fine... I'd have to make it myself tho. OR AGAIN!!... MY CAR!!

A auto-crossbow with fitted blades on the sides would do nice too. Good for long + close range, tho I might stick a hole into myself before I do to anyone else.

Kerii
01-11-2005, 05:53 PM
ugh, havent seen this post inawhile. anyways, ugh you people and your fasination with guns and shooting guns. sure... its more praticial in this time and age, but think about the past, straight forward with formations, no guerilla warfare, no cheap stuff. just do with a sword and such.
maybe im just rambling, but, comon, isnt there anyone who prefers a sword over a gun?Pot calling the kettle black? :p :D

What with that GunslingerGirl avatar and signature. :D
A military rail gun capable of firing a slug 2.5km per sec, and accurate up to 370 miles.. of course that would be too big for a person to hold right now, so i would just shoot from a far.


edit . in my opinion, using a guns against swords is cheap, but on the other hand, using swords against barehand is cheap. think about it.There's no such thing as cheap when your life is on the line. :p :D

Of course, when you're the one with the upper hand, you're not really in much risk. :p :D

Raven18940
01-11-2005, 06:53 PM
There's no such thing as cheap when your life is on the line.
Kerii, for once I completely agree with you.


maybe im just rambling, but, comon, isnt there anyone who prefers a sword over a gun?
There are many. Lots of people in this thread are with you on that, the majority have said they want a katana. Very cool weapon, just not my style personally. I'm much better with a pistol.

Xebi
01-12-2005, 10:50 AM
Imperial katanas sounds interesting! Do you by chance have any pictures of the katana?http://www.dantesknife.com/88DEC.jpg
Cold Steel Imperial Series Double Edged Katana

MmmMmm!
http://www.dantesknife.com/88K.jpg
Cold Steel Imperial Series Katana
http://www.dantesknife.com/88BW.jpg
Cold Steel Warrior Series Wakazashi

I'm also interested in all the other swords, like the nodachi's, gim sword, 2 handed swords.
I don't like those hyped up decorated swords ><

Qulex
01-12-2005, 11:06 AM
a swiss army knife.
vs guys with fists- no problem, pull out the handy dandy mini knife
vs guys with fork- no problem, pull out the handy dandy fork and have a fork duel
vs guys with swords- no problem, pull out the fork to parry and cork remover to remove some eyeball
vs guys with guns- no problem, pull out the nail clipper.. yes the nail clipper.. this will cause him to become temperaily stunned with the sheer ... uh.. lets call it 1337ness.... which'll give you about .4 seconds to cover the distance between you and him to stab him with the pointy end of the nail clipper ... after that your on your own :D

Xebi
01-12-2005, 11:28 AM
a swiss army knife.
vs guys with fists- no problem, pull out the handy dandy mini knife
vs guys with fork- no problem, pull out the handy dandy fork and have a fork duel
vs guys with swords- no problem, pull out the fork to parry and cork remover to remove some eyeball
vs guys with guns- no problem, pull out the nail clipper.. yes the nail clipper.. this will cause him to become temperaily stunned with the sheer ... uh.. lets call it 1337ness.... which'll give you about .4 seconds to cover the distance between you and him to stab him with the pointy end of the nail clipper ... after that your on your own :Dhaha, funny.
Say if I had a nodachi and I can handle it.
Than your little swiss army knife isn't to good against it.
The distance you need to deal lethal damage or damage at all is very small, its a quick melee weapon but it can't block attacks of guns or swords.
Fists or fork fights allright, but otherwise I'd say another weapon would be a better choice

Abicion
01-12-2005, 12:20 PM
Guns? Pbbbbbt.

Meh, I just sneak up behind 'em and smack 'em on the head with a hammer.

Call me oldschool.

Redempteur
01-17-2005, 09:13 AM
mmm ..i couldn't read the whole topic .but if i have to choose a weapon in order to win a fight . i would choose : WELTALL or XENOGEARS

Slayerjammer
01-17-2005, 11:12 AM
I would also have to choose a Katana, i think they are a much more elegant weapon.

kazekiri
01-17-2005, 01:10 PM
Masamune katana. <Goes off to raid some museums>

Sturmwulf
01-17-2005, 01:15 PM
I would probably have to go with a H&K USP .40. It is easily conceiled and is a reliable handgun. I have yet to have mine misfire on me and I have put quite a few rounds through it. When it comes down to it, that is the most important quality for a weapon to possess. If it isn't reliable, then, it just might not go boom when you really need it to. :D

MasterX999
01-17-2005, 01:18 PM
Hmm I guess I would use Gernades always liked using them in Quake 2 alot =)

Xenoheart
01-17-2005, 02:04 PM
Hmm...weapon of choice...

Bwahahahaha!! *holds up a large paper fan* =D

Xenoheart
01-17-2005, 02:07 PM
mmm ..i couldn't read the whole topic .but if i have to choose a weapon in order to win a fight . i would choose : WELTALL or XENOGEARS

Lol, instant win if you had either of those gears.

gunslingerG
01-17-2005, 04:09 PM
P90 is one of my favorit guns, favorite SMG. Preferably I'd have a Sig P210 or CZ75 DAO. Check out my gun post in garbage+rants forum.

cloudmcstrife1
01-17-2005, 04:41 PM
i use fists and feets, never weapons. (not that good, been stabbed before... ah well)

soutaku
01-17-2005, 04:52 PM
i use fists and feets, never weapons. (not that good, been stabbed before... ah well)

Wow. That must've hurt.

cloudmcstrife1
01-17-2005, 05:06 PM
it bleeds more than it hurts, had to throw away my favorite outfit

Samshiel
01-17-2005, 05:13 PM
The effective range of FN P90 is 200 meters, it's capable to defeat standart CRISAT (kevlar + titanium) helmets and armour vests at reasonable distances like 50-100 meters NOT 200 meters. Will the PS90 have the same ammunition like the P90 (SS190 rounds) ? The Five-seveN is advertised as being capable to penetrate standart PAGST vest at 300 meters and standart CRISAT vest at 100 meters, i know that the Five-seveN is available from FN for government or law enforcement sales only.

krotch
01-17-2005, 07:28 PM
FN P90 is built to penetrate 52 layers of kevlar at 200m. Five-seveN is built to penetrate 52 layers of kevlar at 100m.

The P90 I believe has 5 different ammunition types. Civilian market can only get a higher grained one hollow point. The SS192.

mahouneko
01-17-2005, 07:39 PM
Mmm, the G3A3 Autosniper. XD

soutaku
01-17-2005, 08:06 PM
People are sure talking about lots of crazy weapons. Why not just put on a bio suit and splash mercury on your opponent or some virus.

panterna
01-17-2005, 09:27 PM
Why not a Gundam..? Freedom should have enuff firepower..:)